I call the minister's attention to class IV in schedule B, where it states:
In cases where an applicant with or without dependents whose health has become impaired as a result of immoral conduct prior to enlistment, during service or after discharge.
Applications are to be refused.
We might as well discuss this matter frankly. I presume the thought in connection with this general class has to do with the man who has contracted venereal disease. That is what is aimed at. May I at the outset commend the minister and the Department cf Pensions and National Health upon the vigorous campaign waged in the past few months in connection with the elimination of venereal disease. It does seem to me however that this clause, which refers to men who contracted the disease prior to enlistment and afterwards served, and men who
contracted it during service, should be limited to men who refused treatment, thereby putting themselves apart and in a situation where they do not deserve to receive insurance.. I am not holding any brief for these people, but I am afraid that, worded as it is
"as a result of immoral conduct prior to enlistment, during service or after discharge" -it is too -broad, and is subject to the possibility of misinterpretation by returned men. It would also be subject to abuse, if I may say so, either by departmental officers or by a minister who might not see the returned man's point of view in the same way as the present minister might see it.
I am sure the minister must know of cases under the old Pension Act where what I have said would apply. I recall particularly cases in which illegitimate children were involved, and where the chairman of the then pension commission would almost refuse to read the files if anything of that nature was contained in them. My recollection is-and it is quite vivid to-day-that he had a stack of files almost as high as himself sitting in one corner of his room, and he would not even look at them because of the nature of the material they contained. I urge the minister to reconsider this class, or at least to give us some explanation for the present wording.
Topic: QUESTIONS PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS
Subtopic: VETERANS' INSURANCE