No. 2, housing. Do not get ahead of me. No. 2 is housing, and No. 3 is taxation. Nos. 4 and 5 are freedom and espionage. Why do I mention such a thing as that? There is a feeling in the country today that you hate to go out of your front door and walk down the street because you feel that somebody is watching you. The farmer hates to go out in the open because 250 new spies have been appointed to come around and see what he is making. They want to know how many pigs he had last year, how many died, and what he did with the rest of them. It is a form of control spirit. My hon. friend the member for Lake Centre (Mr. Diefenbaker) was in Toronto the other night, and I noticed in the paper that he said that under communism you are counted, and under democracy you count. I thought that was pretty good logic. The people feel that there is a lack of freedom, and they should not.
I did not think that a fellow from a town would be talking about the farmers because, as you know, I do not even get out into the country where I live. My riding is entirely urban. I thought that the fellows in the cities were the only ones who had weird forms to fill out, and who were under control. The Dominion Bureau of Statistics sends a representative around and he tells you that you had better send in such and such a form if you do not want to pay $100. They want to know how many pounds of coal you used last year, and how many kilowatts. I do not know what a kilowatt is, but I put a figure down just the same because I have not $100. I thought that the people in the cities were the only ones who were troubled in this way, but I was talking to my roommate, the member for Middlesex East (Mr. White), the honey man, and he tells me that the farmers are subjected to controls. I told him that was a lot of rot, that I did
The Address-Mr. Manross not believe it. I went over and picked up the income tax form that a farmer has to fill out. This may be the one used by prairie farmers. I do not know whether there is any difference in the forms. If any of you fellows on the farms have not an accountant you are out of the picture right at the start. You are finished, because you would have to have an accountant and a lawyer to understand this form, and no two lawyers can agree on one thing.
Here are some of the items on which they have to supply information: crops and seeds, wheat, oats, barley, hay. It does not say whether it is tons of hay or hayseeds. There are an awful lot of hayseeds in London. Then there is an item for livestock, cattle, hogs, horses, sheep. You have to give information as to how many little piggie wiggies you had last year, how many of them died, and how many were sold. Then you come to the part dealing with mama. You have to show how much she used on the table last year. You have to show the value of the stuff you ate. How can you figure what the value is? Wheat is $1.55 and then you may get 20 cents more, and then 20 cents more. Pigs are so much one time and a different price another time. How are you going to know what she ate? Talk about controls; boy, the farmers are really under them. The next heading is "Livestock held for sale." For now, or the future value? Say I have two pigs and two calves; what are they going to be worth next year? You have to put that down or one of these 250 spies will be banging on your door. Then they wiill charge you not only what you did not pay -wi your income tax, but interest on what you should have thought you should pay. It is n great thing, this control.
Then we come to "Income tax not paid; how much?" You do not know when you make it out, but you have to answer that question. Can you imagine anyone putting that in? Living in the city, I do not have to put it in; that is done for me, but that is just another example of the magnitude of these powers under which they are trying to control the lives of all of us. A farmer does not only get this form, which is a complicated thing. He also gets this big book, twenty-seven pages long; and the last paragraph is headed, "If a farmer dies during the taxation year, who files the income tax return?" You may as well say, "If I should die before I wake, who my income tax will take?" And we pay for that; the taxpayers pay for it. That is something else wrapped up in all these emergency powers and controls. I do not wonder that the farmers are crabbing. I always thought they were the luckiest people in the world, though I know some now
The Address-Mr. Manross who are down to two cars. They are controlled just like us in the cities, so we need not think we are being picked on. We are all picked on under this system, and we want to get out of it. We are through with it.
Topic: RECONSTRUCTION AND SUPPLY
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