Daniel Lee REDMAN

REDMAN, Daniel Lee, LL.B.

Personal Data

East Calgary (Alberta)
Birth Date
October 4, 1889
Deceased Date
April 8, 1948

Parliamentary Career

December 17, 1917 - October 4, 1921
  East Calgary (Alberta)

Most Recent Speeches (Page 1 of 7)

April 12, 1921

1. For how many highways in the province of Alberta has a project statement been approved by the Minister of Railways for Federal grants under "The Canada Highways Act," chap. 54 of the Statutes of Canada, 1919?

2. What are the highways in respect to which agreements for Federal aid have been reached between the province of Alberta and the Minister of Railways?

3. Have any sums been paid to the province of Alberta under the Canada Highways Act?

4. If so, ivhat is the total amount up to March 31, 1921?

5. To what road or roads do these payments apply?

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March 31, 1921


I cannot follow the argument of my hon. friend. As I understand the matter, this is a bonus which was given to oil producers in counties of southwest-era Ontario where the production is so low as to make it almost impossible to proceed with that production unless some Government assistance is furnished. That was the situation at the time the Act was passed under the late Liberal administration, and it is much more the position today, because from that time the production of individual wells in those counties has gradually and continually decreased. What I rose to speak about is this. I wish to take the minister back to the statement he made a short time ago when he said that this bounty is limited to oil of a certain specific gravity. I think he threw out the suggestion-I do not think it was more

than that-that this was done because this may have coincided with the specific gravity of oil which must necessarily be imported to meet our domestic needs in this country. I do not know whether or not that was the fact at that time. My view is that this has always been an incentive to the production, discovery and exploration of oil in this country. In Alberta, we have a grade of oil which is very different in specific gravity from oil obtained in Ontario, and to that Alberta oil this bounty is not applicable. In Ontario, the wells are sunk to a depth of only 400 to 1,000 feet at a very small cost, whereas in Alberta, wells are sunk to a depth of some three or four thousand feet, it costing $40,000 to $100,000 to put down one well. The quantities of oil which we have been obtaining southwest of Calgary are no't great although the value of the oil-is great, and the field may have potentialities. I wish to point out the unfairness of paying a bounty in Ontario where the cost of obtaining oil is so small, when a bounty is not paid to those who produce oil in Alberta where very great cost is incurred in putting down wells. I think this matter has already been presented to the minister in petitions, and he has probably looked carefully into the matter and will have an answer ready. The bounty should be continued until such time as we discover in Canada the sort of oil which will enable us to produce oil in competition with the outside world on an equal basis without the necessity of a bounty. Until that time a bounty should be paid by this Government, not only to assist those who are now producing, but to encourage others to explore and prospect for oil, the necessity for which in this country no one can dispute.

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March 23, 1921

Mr. D. L. REDMAN (East Calgary) :

Mr. Speaker, I wish to second the resolution which has just been brought in by my hon. friend from South Perth (Mr. Steele), but before speaking in support of it I feel that not only myself but the House generally should congratulate the hon. member for having brought up this important subject and especially congratulate him for the very great care which he has taken in looking into the subject, and in amassing and putting before the House in such excellent order for the use of hon. members all the information which he has given.

I need say nothing, after the speech of the hon. member, as to the general importance to Canada of this question. I presume that practically the question is this: How far, and to what extent, can we make the supplies of coal which lie more or less at the two extremes of Canada come towards each other with a view to meeting, as far as possible, the requirements of Central Canada? Whatever the interest of the province of Alberta may be in tl?e general question, I think it would be quite true to say that its interest will be greater in regard to the question of how much coal it can sell to the rest of Canada.

I need not say anything to this House, because the information is already in its possession as to the almost unlimited quantities of coal which we ha.ve in that province, nor as to the quality, because we have there all qualities of coal. It is entirely a question, therefore, of the area within which that coal can economically be marketed. In the last few years the market for Alberta coal has been extended through Saskatchewan and Manitoba. We have not yet completely captured the Manitoba market, and many improvements must be made by us in our methods of production, and some improvements in transportation facilities, before that market is entirely ours; but we have proven that our coal can economically compete with Pennsylvania coal in the province of Manitoba, and I think that when we get proper production methods and proper transportation arrangements it will be proven that our coal can more than compete in Manitoba with the Pennslyvania product.

Then we come to the wider question, a question on which I am not going to have the temerity to-day to make any prohesies or to give any promises, and that is whether or not Alberta coal can come further east than Manitoba. We might, however, consider for a moment the factors which would influence such a result. In the first place, the question of the cost of production might well be looked into. It is a significant fact that while most of the fundamental products, grain, for instance, have been reduced in price during the last year, the price for coal has not only stayed up but has even increased. The Dominion Government has assumed and exercised a certain amount of supervision and control over the labour question in the Alberta mines, and that question is an important factor in the cost of production. In fact, the cost of production of Alberta coal, has almost doubled in the last few years. It is now [11t. D. L. Redman. East Calgary],

given at something over $4. The coal itself, as far as the leases are concerned, has practically no value unless it can be sold, so the cost of production is simply the labour and the equipment which brings it forth. A committee of this House could well consider this question, as the Dominion Government has already assumed some control in regard to the question of the cost of labour that is involved in the production of our coal.

But the more important matter, in fact the real question in considering the market which our coal could reach, is the question of transportation. Here again, we find that transportation rates have not gone down this last year, and again we are met by the question of labour. Now whatever may be the relation of market transportation costs generally. I would like to say this: A

proposal has been made from Alberta in the last two years that during the summer months, when the' freight cars in Alberta and Western Canada are not being used in transporting the grain crop, and when there is not any congestion, when there is, in fact, not sufficient traffic to keep our railroads busy, these cars could be economically used in bringing our coal eastward at a considerably reduced rate as compared with the rate which prevails throughout the rest of the year. I think it has been proven that that can be economically done. It would cheapen the cost of production in that it would give labour all the year around to the miners; it would avoid congestion in the winter time, when the transportation of all products is more difficult, and when the grain is coming eastward. If some such arrangement as this were made, I think it would enable us perhaps to widen our market, and in any event deliver our coal more cheaply throughout the province of Manitoba.

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March 23, 1921


Oh yes, we do that out

there. In fact, in Western Canada we use box cars more than any other kind for shipping coal. I have only to add that I think a parliamentary committee would be an excellent organization to consider such a subject as this. I can think of no argument why committees of this House should not consider more subjects than they do.

I think myself, and I think other hon. members agree, that our time is often much

better spent in getting together in a committee and going to the root of some question, than in making or listening to general remarks in this House on many subjects.

So that, having regard to the importance of the subject, not only to-day but in view of future needs, I would seriously urge that the resolution brought forward to-day by the hon. member for Perth (Mr. Steele), be very favourably considered by the Government. i

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March 21, 1921

1. Has W. J. Tobin or J. Tobin, been employed by the Department of Soldiers' Civil-Reestablishment or by the Soldier Settlement Board or any other department of the Federal Government?

2. If so, between what dates was he so employed ?

3. Was he at any time employed by either body at the city of Edmonton? If so, under what circumstances and between what dates?

4. Was he granted leave of absence? If so, between what dates and under what circumstances?

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