Mr. W. H. SHARPE:

Is it not a demonstration farm that you want?

Mr. SHARPE:

Like the one at Indian Head.

Mr. W. H. SHAEPE:

What do you think about it?

.Mr. HUGHES: I am addressing my remarks to the chairman and the minister, who know what I am talking about. Another lecturer came to our province, I think last year, and a number of farmers went to listen to him. One man asked him what he would do to bring in a worn-out field, or worn-out land, and the prompt answer was: Sow clover on it. The minister knows well enough that that was no answer to give to a practical farmer, that the land would have to be well cultivated and in good condition before you could get a catch of clover. Yrou might as well sow the clover on the sea shore as on a worn-out field. Consequently practical farmers go away from meetings of that kind and doubt (everything they have hearu. I would therefore ask the minister to send a better class of men to our province, if he has any at all, and if he has not any of a better class, not to send any, and save that much expense. These are practical questions, and upon them I am sure the minister will agree with me.

Mr. SHARPE:

I do not see why all

-these cases should not be put in the hands of the Grain Commission; as a matter of fact, I think I remember instances in which the Grain Commission interfered in cases of tms kind and succeeded in getting the railway companies to make good the losses that had been sustained. I think that the whole of the grain trade, not merely part of it, should be put in the hands of the Grain Commission.

Mr. W. H. SHARPE:

I think that the conditions affecting the grain trade are just a little different from those which apply to the things that the hon. minister has just mentioned. We have a grain commission to handle the grain trade of Western Canada, and if that grain commission are going to handle part of the grain, I think they should handle all of it. If, as Mr. Campbell states, grain was weighed in St. Boniface and again at Fort William or rort Arthur, and a loss of three or four hundred bushels was disclosed, it seems to me that it is plain that the railway company should make good that loss.