Hon. Jean-Luc Pepin (Acting Prime Minister):
Mr. Speaker, I have always thought that my hon. friend was an honest man. I do not believe he is particularly attractive politically- neither am I-but I always thought my hon. friend would respect the truth. By quoting me as having said yesterday that unemployed young people are lazy, I believe he was breaking down the basic ABC of academic propriety. I am quite sad about that.
What I said was that in establishing the statistics of unemployment there were different degrees of certainty. In other words, we were certain of the conventional way of establishing unemployment figures among the youth, if you follow the four weeks' searching and availability criteria of Statistics Canada.
I said, with respect to what is called the "hidden unemployment", that there were differing degrees of uncertainty. In some cases a person would have given up after trying hard. In other cases some people might not have tried hard enough, simply being lazy. If the Hon. Member reads Hansard he will find it is all there. I would be grateful if he did me the favour of reading what I said.
As the Hon. Member for St. John's East said, it might have been unwise of me, but you cannot teach an old dog new tricks. If you like academic debate, you bite into it. I would have thought that my old friend would pay me the respect of reading what I said and not distort it.
With respect to Manitoba, I am very pleased to see progress being made. However, again, if one wanted to be totally honest about it, one would have to look at the extent of the support which the federal Government has given to the Government of Manitoba in recent months.
Topic: ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic: REQUEST THAT GOVERNMENT INTRODUCE NEW EMPLOYMENT INITIATIVES