John Gillanders TURRIFF

TURRIFF, The Hon. John Gillanders

Personal Data

Party
Liberal
Constituency
Assiniboia (Saskatchewan)
Birth Date
December 14, 1855
Deceased Date
November 10, 1930
Website
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gillanders_Turriff
PARLINFO
http://www.parl.gc.ca/parlinfo/Files/Parliamentarian.aspx?Item=52a4499f-fa60-4960-92e4-bb99baf0c85e&Language=E&Section=ALL
Profession
farmer, merchant

Parliamentary Career

November 3, 1904 - September 17, 1908
LIB
  Assiniboia East (Northwest Territories)
October 26, 1908 - July 29, 1911
LIB
  Assiniboia (Saskatchewan)
September 21, 1911 - October 6, 1917
LIB
  Assiniboia (Saskatchewan)
December 17, 1917 - September 22, 1918
UNION
  Assiniboia (Saskatchewan)
September 23, 1918 - October 4, 1921
LIB
  Assiniboia (Saskatchewan)

Most Recent Speeches (Page 4 of 396)


May 13, 1918

Mr. TURRIFF:

Under this clause as it is proposed each department will be able to have a different system. At present there is a great deal of difference in the manner *in which the departments record the .attendance oLdtmir officials. Usually there is a 'book to be signed. In some of the departments the officials have to sign the hook when they come in, when they go out at noon, when they come back after lunch and when they leave. In other departments the official signs the book when he comes in the morning and when he goes in the afternoon but at no other time. In some of the departments at half past nine a red line is drawn below the signature of those who have come in on time and all those who are late sign under the red line, thus there is a record showing whether they are late or not.

In other departments there is no red line drawn and no record taken. The official is allowed to mark his time whenever he likes.

f(Mr. Bureau.]

If he comes in at 9.30 a.m. and chooses to mark hie arrival at 9.15 aim., that is all there is to it and he gets no black mark. I claim there should be some uniformity in the system that is followed. If only to sign twice is the proper thing, well and good, but have it apply to every department. I think it is a mistake to leave it to the deputy minister, or the head of the department, to say what system shall be followed. The Civil Service Commision should have the necessary power, and there should be one uniform rule for every department in the Service.

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Subtopic:   AND TO BRING THE OUTSIDE SERVICE UNDER ITS PROVISIONS.
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May 13, 1918

Mr. TURRIFF:

I was not here on Saturday when this section was adopted. Was subsection 1 passed as it is in the Bill?

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Subtopic:   AND TO BRING THE OUTSIDE SERVICE UNDER ITS PROVISIONS.
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May 13, 1918

Mr. TURRIFF:

Will the minister explain just what privileges the staffs of the House of Commons, the Senate and the Parliamentary Library, enjoy during recess.

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Subtopic:   AND TO BRING THE OUTSIDE SERVICE UNDER ITS PROVISIONS.
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May 13, 1918

Mr. TURRIFF:

I think the minister's idea of waiting for the report of the Speaker of the House is a very good one. I have not the slightest intention of interfering with the official stenographers during recess; they work here, I understand, by the day during the session. Under this clause as it stands, the permanent officers of the Senate and of the Commons and of the Library of Parliament, drawing from $2,000 to $5,000 a year in salaries, can, this year, for a ten months' interval, go out and compete with others who have not a big Government salary at their back. I do not know that they do that; I have never heard of their doing that; and I do not think it is likely. At the same time, it is quite possible for them to do so under this clause, and I think iit should be amended in that respect. It is .all right now, -when labour is scarce, and when several departments are looking for workers all the time, for these officials to do extra work. But, ordinarily, it is not fair to the outside public to have an official drawing a big salary from the Government go out and compete with ordinary labour during one-half of the year.

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Subtopic:   AND TO BRING THE OUTSIDE SERVICE UNDER ITS PROVISIONS.
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May 13, 1918

Mr. TURRIFF:

Those who have been in Ottawa for years and know something about the Civil Service realize that members of the Civil Service themselves have far more influence in the matter of appointments than all the members of the Senate and the House of Commons put together. The amendment is not designed to prevent any class of persons from entering the Service.

I would not for a moment suggest that a man should be debarred because he has two or three sons or daughters in the Service, but there is no reason why the information referred to in the amendment should not be given to the House and the country. That is why I support the amendment.

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