Mr. NORMAN JAQUES (Wetaskiwin):

I hold in my hand, Mr. Speaker, a cutting from the Vancouver Sun of June 21, it being a statement by Dillon O'Leary, dated Ottawa, June 21, and headed: "Maelnnis calls Jaques liar, no reprimand". This is a misstatement and is a reflection on the chairman of the committee, on the hon. member for Vancouver East (Mr. Maelnnis) and on myself. The hon. member for Vancouver East did say that-a statement I made in the house, that the

C.C.F. supported Zionism, was a lie; but that is quite a different thing from calling me a liar.

I also hold in my hand a cutting from the Canadian Jewish Chronicle of May 21, 1948, headed "Israel rally at Montreal supports Zionist policies and its armed forces. Messages of greetings and support were received from individuals and organizations including the provincial executive of the C.C.F. party". In the light of this evidence, will Mr. O'Leary correct his misstaitement?

Mr. JAQUES:

I should like to support the remarks of the previous speakers with respect to this clause. I can assure the minister I have had a number of letters from farmer constituents of mine; and while no one likes to pay taxes, these letters express far greater objection to the nature of the form they have to fill out than to the tax itself. It is perfectly true that it has created a great- deal of ill-feeling. We want to avoid ill-feeling where we can; but I can assure the minister that this feeling is widespread among farmers in the west, including those in my own riding. As I say, I have had many letters dealing with this matter.

Mr. JAQUES:

Am I to understand that they actually prefer new green cheese or what is really nothing but curd? If they do not care for the good old cheese, what is the purpose of this item? I thought the people did not eat it because they could not get it. I know that is why I do not eat it.

Mr. JAQUES:

This item is to encourage the improvement of cheese. I should like to suggest that one way to encourage that improvement would be to see that the restaurant in the House of Commons sells good cheese. By that, I do not mean the big brands of factory cheese. I believe there is some cheese called Old Ontario cheese, which is good cheese. My complaint is that you cannot buy it or you cannot get it. Can the minister tell us why it is that good cheese is so hard to come by in this country when it is one of the great cheese-making countries? I know you can buy cheese, and when I say that, I am referring to the big brands. But I do not mean that sort of cheese. I mean the cheese that we used to get years ago. I have repeatedly asked for Old Ontario cheese, but I am never able to get it. I think it would be a great encouragement if we could get it here in the House of Commons, for instance. Can the minister say why it is so scarce?

Mr. JAQUES:

I like the taste of it.