With regard to this particular line of steamships the apple shippers of Nova Scotia are not so much concerned ; they do not carry very many of the apples from Nova Scotia, inasmuch as their destination is Liverpool, while our market is London. . With regard to New Brunswick, I have heard of no complaint except in one case, that of a steamship which was in distress and put in at the Azores, with the result that her cargo was landed in bad condition. The Canadian , Pacific Railway boats and other lines that carry fruit have landed their cargoes in good condition, and no complaint has been made about them. I would like to see the government retain a control over the rates charged by the steamship lines. I do not know anything about the rates on grain, but I think the government should have some control over the freight rates on fruit.
1 take exception to the statement made by the hon. member for Toronto (Mr. Clarke), that this vote is for a mail subsidy alone. It is a subsidy for a mail and a steamship service, and I think the freight service which we are able to obtain is very important, and should be well looked after. So far as my province is concerned, I must say that very good work has been done as regards the shipment of fruit. The stringency cf the provisions of the contract which the government has exacted from the steamship people lias compelled them to carry the fruit over in a very much better condition than formerly. lLast year it gave absolute satisfaction, except in the case of one steamer, to which I have directed the ministers attention.