I have not those records,
but I am speaking of the places where the larger amounts of money were spent. In 1934 the sum of $168,025 was spent in the city of London, $2,511 in the township of London, and $2,158 in the township of Westminster. There are other townships located in the riding which I have the honour to represent. Smaller amounts were spent in those townships as smaller amounts were requested. In reply to the hon. member for West Middlesex (Mr. Elliott) I may say that my view is that any township that made application for a grant for that purpose had its request met reasonably well, and I think the same situation exists in the riding represented by the hon. gentleman.
.There are large numbers of men as yet unemployed. However, there is improvement shown in this connection also. In 1933 there were 610,763 men in Canada without jobs, while in 1934 the number fell to 502,819. So that we are moving in the right direction, and I believe that in the near future, with conditions continuing to improve, we will be relieved of this problem of unemployment.
Now for a few moments I should like to deal with the legislation brought in by this government in the interests and for the protection of the farmers. As all hon. members know, during the election campaign hon. gentlemen on this side told the farmers that protection should be extended not only to those interested in industry but to the products of the farm as well. I am very glad to state that this protection has been afforded. I should like to place on Hansard a table showing the duty imposed by the previous government, as contrasted with the duty imposed by this government on a number of agricultural commodities:
Sheep and lambs
Bacon, hams, shoulders and other pork
Eggs in the shell
Milk and cream
Previous duty cents per lb.
25 per cent 25 per cent 3J cents per lb.
2 cents per lb.
3 cents per doz.
3 cents per lb.
7 cents per lb.
15 cents per bush.
10 cents per bush.
10 cents per bush.
12 cents per bush.
$2 per ton - Free
174 per cent of value
Present duty 3 cents per lb.
3 cents per lb.
8 cents per lb.
5 cents per lb.
10 cents per doz.
7 cents per lb.
14 cents per lb.
1 cent per lb.
16 cents per bush. 15 cents per bush. 30 cents per bush. $5 per ton
75 cents per 100 lbs. 25 per cent of value
I feel, Mr. Speaker, that the farmers needed this protection, and I believe they have derived considerable benefit from it.
Then I should like to say just a word in regard to grain. It is true that prices have not been as high as we would like, but through the stabilization of the price of wheat in Winnipeg I feel that the farmers of Ontario have obtained better prices for their wheat than they would have received otherwise. I should like to direct attention to the fact that since these duties have been imposed on farm products entering this country, our imports have decreased, as follows:
This speaks well for the action taken by this government; I feel confident that the farmers of this country have benefited very materially thereby, and I am sure they are thankful. Further benefits were conferred on the farmers through the imperial conference agreements, under which preferences were granted on dairy products. On cheese this preference amounted to 15 per cent ad valorem, on butter to 15 shillings per 112 pounds; on condensed milk, whole, sweetened, in addition to sugar duty, 5 shillings per 112 pounds; on evaporated milk not sweetened, 6 shillings per 112 pounds, and on milk powder and other preserved milk not sweetened, 6 shillings per 112 pounds.
I should like now to say a word in connection with the whole milk situation in the province of Ontario. The board appointed by the former provincial government saw to
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it that those .producing milk for city canf sumption received a fair price, and I believe they were in a fairly good situation. In regard to butter, when this government came into power the situation was very bad indeed; butter was being imported and as a result the price was very low. In 1930 our imports of butter amounted to 41,910,372 pounds, while in 1934 that importation dropped to 2,602,744 pounds. At present the producers of butter in Canada are almost able to take care of our requirements, and they are receiving the benefit of the whole Canadian market.
I should like to say a word in regard to the production of cheese in Canada. We have the very finest cheese in the world with the exception of a Cheddar cheese which is manufactured in England. Practically all the cheese used in local trade and all that is exported is grated by the official government grader. In 1933 the percentage of No. 1 cheese in all Canada was 94-87, while in 1934 the percentage of No. 1 cheese increased to 95-53. 'Ontario is divided into four sections, the main ones being eastern, central and western Ontario. The average percentage of No. 1 cheese in eastern Ontario was 95-45 in 1933 and 95-61 in 1934, which is a very creditable showing. In central Ontario the average percentage of No. 1 was 97-76 in 1933 and 98-06 in 1934, which is a better record than eastern Ontario. In western Ontario, in which is located the riding I have the honour to represent, the average percentage of No. 1 cheese was 99-02 in 1933 and 98-99 in 1934. So you can see that the cheese manufactured in the western part of the province is some of the very finest manufactured in any part of Canada. But while these figures show that we are manufacturing the very finest quality of cheese in the dominion, yet the price is not as high as we should like. The price for export has been down to some extent. During the fall of 1934 the national dairy council conceived the idea of specially advertising cheese during a cheese week in Canada. During this week a considerable amount of advertising was done in order to increase home consumption. I assisted in the campaign by speaking at a number of meetings, and I believe some good was done, as the market for cheese in Canada to-day is higher than it was a year ago. Another plan has been devised by the national dairy council, that of seeking through the marketing board to stabilize the market for cheese in Canada. The secretary of the council attended a number of dairymen's conventions, and a resolution was passed by a number of conventions to this effect:
This meeting approves of the establishment of a scheme under the Natural Products Marketing Act for the election of a board with power to levy on butter fat to all markets for the formation of a fund to support the marketing of those dairy commodities which may be best adapted as a means of exporting our surplus dairy products.
This was promoted to quite an extent, but I believe it was not started early enough in the season. I think that when it is thoroughly understood by the dairymen of Canada they will take up the proposition and all dairy products will benefit.
Then those who are producing beef have been enabled by this government to secure a sale of their cattle in the old country. I regret that more have not been shipped; at the same time some benefit has been derived. I regret very much that producers of cattle in the riding which I have the honour to represent were so unfortunate as to sell their cattle to the Richelieu Corporation of Montreal and a number of them received no payment for their cattle. I believe that the Richelieu Corporation did not intend at the time to pay for those cattle, but I am hopeful that some remuneration may be obtained from some of those who were connected with the company. I understand certain of the officials have been arrested and will have to stand trial.
Another advantage that'this government is endeavouring to secure for the farmers is under the provisions of the Canadian Farm Loan Act. I regret very much that durmg the last half of 1934 and up to the present the farmers in the riding I represent have not been able to secure loans from the province of Ontario. I do not know whether loans were procurable in some other parts of the province, but I know of none being obtained in that part. Very many have been inconvenienced by this situation and some have been embarrassed to the extent that they may be put off their farms. Therefore I am very glad that the federal government is making provision that loans may be available. I would ask the government to make the rate of interest on such loans as low as possible. I feel sure that they will do so, as the farmers are not making sufficient income to pay a high rate of interest.
On motion of Mr. Boyes the debate was adjourned.
Topic: THE BUDGET
Subtopic: DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE