You would have a little difficulty in figuring that out. Then my hon. friend from Lisgar mentioned Mr. Elliott. I know Mr. Elliott very well; he is an exceedingly fine gentleman who has taken quite an interest in the cheese industry. But as one who has been connected with the dairy industry all his life, from the milking of cows to the making and marketing of cheese and butter, let me say that the best years we ever had in the cheese industry in Canada were the years when butter was on an export basis. I am speaking now only in regard to cheese. When butter is on an export basis in Canada, invariably the farmer will go to cheese because as a rule there is more money in it.