May 16, 1923 (14th Parliament, 2nd Session)

PRO

Donald Ferdinand Kellner

Progressive

Mr. KELLNER:

I admit that, but the Minister of Agriculture stated last night that
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the government's reduction in the British preferential tariff would be more than under our proposed amendment. It would be a greater reduction, of course. I have a long list of items here, twenty-four in all, and they are all in the same category. The following is the list of these items, with the present rate of duty, the rate proposed by the goverment, the rate under the Progressive amendment, and the general tariff.
Present Government Progressive General rate proposal amendment tariff Percent Percent Percent Percent
Ribbons
22$ 201 17$ 35Furniture 20 18 15 30Boots
17$ 15} 15 30Screws
22$ 20$ 17$ 35Cutlery .... 20 18 15 30
Then we get into a line of importations. The first one is iron and aluminum hollow-ware. Hon. members may have noticed that the minister stumbled a bit when he came to that item last night, and I could not help wondering if he quite realized what hollow-ware was. I think I should tell him that it is material for making up caskets and they make it in two different forms, iron and aluminum. They bury their old political pledges, the ones which they never expect to resurrect in the iron casket j it is heavier, and they stay firmly in place. But matters like the tariff, which they expect to bring back and use from time to time, it is much more convenient to place in the aluminum casket. This list continues:
Present Government Progressive General
rate proposal amendment tariffPer cent Per cent Per cent Per centLamps.. . . .. 20 18 15 30Sewing macnines. . .. 20 18 15 30Hats and caps 22* 201 17* 35Gloves and mitts. .. .. 22* 20* 17$ 35
I took a great deal of pleasure this afternoon in listening to the Acting Minister of Immigration (Mr. Stewart) in his address when he told us that he had no very great objection to the Progressives assuming power in Canada, and he also made the statement that in the provinces where they are now in power they are not making a very great amount of headway. Let mo tell him that in mostly every province it was the relics of a poor Liberal administration that put them into power, and it is going to be pretty hard for them, or any other government, to make very much of a showing for a little while at least. He made a very strong plea for capital, and I do not blame him, because hon. members will remember that in the last federal election capital showed itself to be just a little frivolous. In the beginning of the

campaign it got in behind the Conservative party and tried to elect them, but before the campaign was very far advanced it switched and got in behind the Liberals and did elect them. Now I think members of the government to-day ought to feel as though 5 p.m. they owed a great deal to the capitalistic interests of Canada. The minister also talked about an inheritance tax, and said he thought it should be a part of the provincial taxes. I do not know whether I agree with that policy or not, but it seems to me that at the present time all the millionaires that we have in Canada seem to die either in Montreal or Toronto. I think probably we make them out West, but when it comes to crossing the Great Divide which the member for East York (Mr. Harris) so very touchingly described a few minutes ago, they always end up in Montreal or Toronto, and the inheritance tax is collected in those cities. I am very sorry, Mr. Speaker, that in discussing the minister's statement of last night I omitted to read an extract from the Toronto Globe of April 17th, which I ask permission to read at the present time. It says:
In Wednesday's Globe, April 11, is a message from Hon. Mr. Motherwell, Minister of Agriculture, in which he blames the raisers of the scrub steer the off-type hog and the dunghill hen-
A class of animal that is very well known to hon. members of this House; we have often heard of it. The article continues:
-for the complaints in regard to the condition of agriculture at the present time. If the Minister of Agriculture will travel through any part of Lambton county, Ontario, and I have no doubt any other county as well, he will see for himself the kind of stock kept on the farm and he will hear from men who know their business that the farmers are facing difficult problems.
There is not one man in one hundred who can start on the farm under present conditions and pay for his farm if he lives in the way any civilized man ought to live. The lifting of the British embargo may help stock raisers. It is to be hoped it will, but the best market by far for the Canadian farmer is just across the border.
And I have yet to learn that our Liberal government has taken any step to secure that market for the Canadian farmer. If our government realized the seriousness of the situation, they would remove the duty on all the necessities of life and on all farm implements. If Canada had free trade with the United States, this country would prosper as never before, not only the farmers, but every class in the country, and, to my mind, that is the only way to make Canada the country it ought to be. At present we have apparent prosperity in our large centres of population, but if present conditions continue the pros-

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perity of our cities will vanish. The Globe in the same issue makes the statement that the prosperity of the whole country depends on the success of agriculture-scrubs, steers and dunghill hens included, I presume. The Globe says-
The Globe in the same issue makes the statement that the prosperity of the whole country depends on the success of agriculture: this being so, and there is no denying the fact, it is up to the Globe to use its whole influence for the removal of the obstacles that are throttling agriculture.
The Liberal party should put into practice the platform adopted in 1919 or hand the reins of government over to our Conservative friends who are the fathers of protection in Canada.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE
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