Without protection. I believe this is the principle upon which industries should be established. The hon. member for Brantford (Mr. Raymond) the other day stated in this House that the whole success of his constituency depended upon the protective tariff being afforded to agricultural implement industries in his riding. In the city of Toronto there was a large manufacturing business of the same kind which also had its warehouses full, and it found it necessary to turn its 5,000 employees into the streets. This was done under the operation of a protective tariff. It was not due to the abolition of protection by any means; the sole cause was the inability of this manufacturer's customers to buy his goods owing to the high prices that were being charged for this class of articles. He was not getting money for his stock and therefore could not carry on. The old binder, the old mower, and the old horse-rake had to do another year on the farm, while the new ones remained in the warehouse in Toronto. Now, if the manufacturers of these implements had taken their losses as the farmers of this country have had to take theirs, there would have been a different situation in the warehouses of Tononto; every one would have been satisfied and there would have been less unemployment there.
I do not agree with the conclusion of the hon. member for South Renfrew (Mr. Low), who asked the question, facing the members of this group, whether they would be prepared to suffer an individual loss of $9 or $10 each to prevent the agricultural implement manufacturing industries of this country going out of business. Let me assure the hon. gentleman that the people whom I and other hon. members in this corner of the House represent are just as much interested in the successful operation of the manufacturing industries in Canada as he is. But there is a difference between the hon. member for South Renfrew and the gentlemen who form this group in the House, and that difference is not in the direction he suggests but merely
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as regards the means we would employ in making the various industries of the country successful. We would regard the manufacturing industries as secondary, making their success dependent on t; e prosperity of the primary or basic industries. He, on the contrary, would make the secondary industry a success at the expense of the basic industries.
The question of the home market has often been introduced, and I do not think there is a member in this group who does not realize the importance of that market. But I would draw ibis to the attention of the House: While we value the home market, the fact is that the prices of goods which we sell at home are set in the markets of the world. Only a year ago milk products were selling at satisfactory prices in Canada about this time, or a little earlier. Suddenly there came a slump in cheese in the British market, and as soon as the cable reached Canada the price here fell. The prices of the goods we sell are not set in Toronto. The bulk of the produce which the Canadian farmer places on the market is disposed of at the prices which rule in the markets of the world; and I am one of those farmers who believe that, given a fair chance, we can compete with any nation on the face of the earth. Last fall a little cheese factory in the Belleville district sent 4 p.m. some exhibits to the great British Dairy Congress, and in competition with cheese from all parts of the world those exhibits carried olf the blue ribbon, winning the grand championship. Time after time, competitors from the agricultural colleges of this country have gone to international shows at Chicago and carried off the prizes. We have had them from the Ontario Agricultural College, the Macdonald College in Quebec, and the Manitoba Agricultural College, and time after time they have gone to Chicago and in competition with picked teams of the United States have brought home the bronze bull. Time and again, Jimmie Leask of Greenbank has gone to Chicago and won the grand championship in shorthorn steers; time after time J. D. MacGregor has repeated the victory with his Aberdeen Angus; year after year, Graham Brothers, of Claremont, have taken their string of Clydesdales and won the chief trophies. It is now a matter of history that whenever Graham Brothers of Canada compete at the International they sweep the boards. America has her Luther [Mr. Brethen. 1
Burbank, but Canada has her Seager Wheeler.
Now, I do not claim that the rural districts have a monopoly of the brains, the skill or the pluck of the people of Canada. 1 believe that the people in the cities of Canada, as the war has proved, are quite the equal of the people on the farms, although I do not admit they are superior. I do think, however, that they are equal to the people on the farms, and in the realm of sport they have admirably acquitted themselves. The Falcon Hockey team, of Winnipeg, a couple of years ago, at the Belgium Olympic, in competition with the hockey team? of the world, licked the Yankees, winning the championship not only of America but of the world. And I would not have hon. members forget this afternoon what the Canadians did during the last great war. At Vimy, in the second battle of Yyres, when others were falling back in the face of shells and poison gas, the Canadian boys gasping, bleeding, dying, held and barred the way to the Channel ports. During the recess a couple of weeks ago I took a trip to the northern part of my riding, one of those places of rocks, and lakes and sparkling streams,-and, at this time of the year, mosquitoes;-one of those places where agriculture is carried on under very great disadvantages but where manhood excels. In this place, one day, a little Yankee horse buyer came upon the scene and stepped into a field where a big brawny Scotchman was picking up boulders-the field was literally covered with them-and placing them in position in a fence he was building. The Yankee horse dealer asked: "What do you grow here, MaJ" And the big Scotchman reached down and took up a huge boulder, placed it on the fence and replied: "Men, my friend." I think it is fair to say that in these days of depression the farmers of the country have taken -their loss standing. I would like to compare what we see in this Parliament from day to day with the cond tion when Rome was at the height of her glory:
Then none were for the party; then all were for the state,
Then the rich man helped the poor, and the poor man loved the gTeat.
I want to say that we, as Canadians, are proud to refer to our great national resources, to our wealth of mines and fisheries, woods and fertile soil. But the greatest wealth we can leave this land of ours is a nationhood of bright-eyed, rosy-cheeked boys and girls with the will to do
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and to serve in this God-given country whose chiefest heritage should be " an equal opportunity to all and special privilege to none."
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