May 29, 1984 (32nd Parliament, 2nd Session)


Paul Edmund McRae


Mr. McRae:

If I have only two minutes, Mr. Speaker, I think that I can get along without the question. I have a very serious point that I want to ensure the House understands.
If I were an American today and was centre to centre-right in my leanings, which I am not, I would be very, very concerned about the policy that the Reagan Government is taking in the United States. I do not think that the United States stands taller than it did before. I think that it stands weaker. It stands weaker because it has created far, far more dangers: the deployment of the Pershing II, the flight trajectory, and the threat of four to six minutes. These kinds of things are the tensions which create a war. There are far more SS-20s than there were before. There is a very large build-up in the Sea of Japan, the Kuril Islands and the surrounding areas of Soviet Typhoon submarines. Each submarine has 80 warheads. That kind of build-up is there.
There is a breakdown in the NATO alliance which is very serious, certainly at the political level. There is great concern among people in NATO about whether the alliance will continue in the way it has. I am speaking from the point of view of an American who would be of the middle to middle-right persuasion. We have a Lebanese situation which is frightfully dangerous and ridiculous. As well, there is the Grenada scene and the situation in Central America.
The most important issue is not whether we declare ourselves a nuclear free zone and test the Cruise, it is what will happen in the United States in the next six months. Anything
we can do to help that situation, I am in favour of that. But, I will not count on us getting involved in something which will discredit Canada or create a situation in which we are turned down again. We cannot afford that situation. Although I agree with the Hon. Member, I am worried about other things which his Party does not seem to be worried about.

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