November 30, 1910 (11th Parliament, 3rd Session)


Frank Broadstreet Carvell



for the closer co-operation of the empire. These issues would have to be taken into consideration, and a permanent policy would have to be worked out, and when that permanent policy had been worked out and explained to the people of Canada, to everv citizen in this country, then I would say it would be the right of any government to go to the people of Canada to get them to pronounce their mandate and their disapproval or approval of that policy.
Now, Sir, if you will analyse these three propositions for one moment, you will see whether there is any relation between them. The first proposition was, build a Canadian navy, make a start at once, and do it speedily. The second proposition was, contribute a sum of money, then mature a plan, bring it to parliament at the next general election, and submit it to the people. He comes down now, after the Drum-mond-Arthabaska election, and after a resolution passed at a Nationalist meeting in Montreal, to which I will soon refer, he comes down to this House with a third policy, and that third policy is-not a contribution, because he admits he was wrong last year, and that there was no emergency-he abandons that proposition, he no longer says: Let us get together ourselves and mature a plan, bring it before parliament and then send it to the people; but he says: We should not touch this
thing until we have imperial federation, until we get the whole empire together. He says it is unreasonable to expect the self-governing colonies of this empire to contribute to the expense of a war with the declaration of which we have nothing to do. He says it is beneath the dignity of the people of this country to be asked to do such things until they have had a chance to discuss them, or until we have imperial federation. I would like to ask my hon. friend from Victoria-Haliburton (Mr Hughes) if he will tell us how many generations it is going to be before that comes about.

Topic:   J. E. PEER AULT.
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