They want us to put it in. We have put $20,000, $40,000 and $80,000 into such projects in the past. We have now come to the point where we have got to say that those Indians in this country who are capable of carrying themselves, and who are able to manage, should have the right to do this instead of getting it from us. But instead we are going around and saying to the individual Indian, "You should be independent," and at the same time we are going around and saying, "You should have more money from us". We cannot have it both ways.
Among Canadian Indians today there is a tremendous improvement taking place. There are many young Indian leaders coming along, and the situation is not at all as represented by the hon. member. If the standing committee wants to see other reserves I would be very happy to see it set up and visit them. We are making worth-while developments and progress in our program, and if the committee wishes to inspect and participate in that program so much the better.
[DOT] (10:40 p.m.)