Mr. Chairman, hon. members on at least two occasions have noticed the filibuster engaged in by members of the government party on two bills. They were so much afraid of presenting new legislation that they kept on questioning and questioning various ministers. We have never seen filibustering conducted this way. May I add that in another field the government is also avoiding its responsibility; we know very well that the establishment of a national flag and anthem is solely the responsibility of the federal government. However, the government is calling a federal-provincial conference and leaving it to the provinces to decide. Then it will say to the provinces "We cannot get an agreement; it is your fault, not our fault."