December 1, 1945 (20th Parliament, 1st Session)


Douglas King Hazen

Progressive Conservative


Mr. Chairman, there are a few matters I should like to bring to the attention of the Minister of Fisheries, and there are one or two questions I should like to ask. Before I do so, I should like to take this opportunity to congratulate him upon being appointed to the position he now holds in the government of Canada. I think the
Prime Minister made a wise choice in selecting him for that office. It is a matter of satisfaction, I believe, not only to the members from New Brunswick who sit on the government side but also to the members from that province who sit on the opposition side, that the hon. member for York-Sunbury was appointed to this responsible position.
I call it a responsible position, but I notice that not long ago a Toronto newspaper, commenting on the appointment, said that the fisheries post was not one, to say the least, that involved great responsibilities. I do not-agree with that statemefit. I believe the minister has great responsibilities. It is his responsibility and duty to assist in conserving, developing and improving the fishing resources and fishing industry of this country in order that an improvement may be made in the living conditions of tens of thousands of men who are primary producers and who make their living from the harvest of the sea. I think that is a great responsibility.
When the estimates of the Minister of Public Works were before the committee a few days ago I pointed out to him the necessity of certain repairs being made to wharves at fishing villages along the shores of the bay of Fundy. I have already written to the Minister of Fisheries about repairs 'hat are necessary and I do not think I should take up the time of the committee now by going into details. As the minister knows, repairs are necessary at Chance harbour, at Lorneville, and at other harbours along the shore. They are urgently needed by the fishermen of these different communities. In addition to these repairs it is essential that dredging be done at Dipper harbour in New Brunswick.
There is another matter I wish to refer to and in connection with which I want to make a suggestion to the minister. I suggest that he take steps to have established lobster hatcheries along the shores of New Brunswick. I will go further and say. in the maritime provinces. I understand that at one time a good many years ago lobster hatcheries were established in the maritimes and later they were abandoned. I would ask the minister not. to be discouraged by the fact that these lobster hatcheries were done away with at that time; for if he will look into the matter he will find that in the state of Maine, which admins New Brunswick, lobster hatcheries that were established some time ago have proved a great success. Not only have they benefited fishermen in the state of Maine and along the New England shores, but they have also


benefited the fishermen on the Island of Grand Manan, which is part of New Brunswick.
The lobster industry is an important one, and it could be, made much more important than it is to-day. To illustrate the size of the business, I may-say that at St. Andrew's in Charlotte county there is being shipped this year by one firm lobsters to the value of $3,500,000. It is big business, and it could be made larger. It therefore deserves encouragement.
There is a. member of this house who knows a great deal more about this matter than I do, and that is the member for Charlotte, New Brunswick (Mr. Stuart). For a good many years he has been intimately connected with the fish business in more ways than one, and I am sure he will back me up in urging the minister to establish lobster hatcheries in the maritime provinces in the interests of our fishermen and in order to add to the wealth of the dominion.
There are one or two items under the war appropriation estimates, if I may so describe them, on page 553 of Hansard, about which I should like to ask the minister a question.
I do not expect him to answer now, but I think we should have some information on these subjects before he gets through with his estimates. One of the items I have in mind is a sum of $1,200,000 to provide for payment of subsidies in connection with the purchase of Canadian canned salmon. I should like to have a statement from the minister about the amount of subsidies paid, to whom , paid, the quantity of salmon represented, and where that salmon was disposed of. Another item about which I should like to have some information is the one that is worded "operation of experimental long line fishing vessel, $50,000''. Will the minister tell us what that experiment was, where it was held, what the results were, and so on?
I asked the Minister of Fisheries when the Fisheries Act was up about fishery inspectors and fishery guardians, and at that time I referred to a case at Shediac, New Brunswick. A fishery inspector had resigned his position in order to take up a job with the provincial government. The position was not advertised by the civil service commission, but a man whose name it is not necessary to mention was given the job. I understand from what the minister said that he knew about that' case and that the job was only a temporary one. I understood that ultimately the position would be advertised. What I should like to know is this. How long are these positions to be kept open in this way or filled tempor-

arily before they are advertised by the civil service commission. It seems to me that if a man gives up a position of this kind the proper course is to advertise it right away or very soon after it is relinquished. In this particular case an application was made for the job by a man who had served four years overseas and had been wounded in the fighting in France. He was told, if I have the facts correctly, that the position would be ultimately advertised, but in the meantime somebody else was given- the job, a man who had never served overseas. What I fear is that the man who had no service overseas will get the preference, when these examinations are held, if he is kept there long enough; that the examiners will say7 that his qualifications are so much higher, that he knows so much more about the work than the man who returned from- overseas, that it will not be an overseas man that gets the job. If our men who served overseas are to have the preference, as I think they should have, that situation is not right. I have here a clipping with reference to a meeting of the Legion, held in the city of Montreal, in which there is reported a resolution passed at that meeting. The clipping is from the Montreal Star. The resolution urged that all temporary7 employees of the dominion civil service be placed in examinations in competition with veterans and t.hat a representative of the provincial command of the Canadian Legion should be on the examining board. That resolution was
passed without dissent at a meeting of R.M.R. branch No. 14 of the Legion, held at West-mount Armoury.
I am interested in this particular case because I want to see a returned man, a man who served overseas, get the appointment. I believe a returned man is entitled to it and should get it in preference to one who did not go overseas. I do not ask the minister to make a statement now, but I would ask him to look into the matter and see that the position is advertised and that, so far as it lies in his power, he see to it that a man who served overseas gets the appointment.

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