That is all right, but either Mr. Breadner was an expert or he was not. We had the word of the Minister of Finance that he was an expert, and he was appointed to that new job made for himself because he was an expert to draft treaties, but he drafted none. It goes like that. They have no one at their disposal to draft treaties in the proper way, and that is why Canadian trade is going to the dogs.
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