September 20, 2000

LIB

Derek Lee

Liberal

Mr. Derek Lee

I ask, Mr. Speaker, that the remaining questions be allowed to stand.

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Subtopic:   Questions On The Order Paper
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The Deputy Speaker

Is that agreed?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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LIB

Derek Lee

Liberal

Mr. Derek Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)

Mr. Speaker, would you be so kind as to call Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers No. P-11 in the name of the hon. member for Surrey Central and No. P-24 in the name of the hon. member for Yorkton—Melville?

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The Deputy Speaker

Perhaps we could deal with one first and then the other. I call Notice of Motion No. P-11 in the name of the hon. member for Surrey Central.

Motion P-11

That a humble Address be presented to Her Excellency praying that she will cause to be laid before this House copies of all documents, reports, minutes of meetings, notes, correspondence relating, prosecutions and issues related to extradition concerning the bombing of Air-India 182 in 1985.

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LIB

Derek Lee

Liberal

Mr. Derek Lee

Mr. Speaker, I am informed as follows. There has never been a prosecution or an extradition case related to the Air India 182 bombing in 1985.

The investigation of criminal acts comes within the mandate of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and it is not the practice of this House to require disclosure of matters under police investigation.

I would therefore ask the hon. member to withdraw his motion.

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REF

Gurmant Grewal

Reform

Mr. Gurmant Grewal (Surrey Central, Canadian Alliance)

Mr. Speaker, Notice of Motion No. P-24 pertaining to the production of papers relating to the Air India bombing was introduced in June 1998 and reintroduced as P-11 in the new session.

It has taken a tremendously long time. The parliamentary secretary first denied that there were documents. In the interim the House was informed that the file had been referred to the justice department. Now I am told that the document could not be provided because of the ongoing RCMP investigation.

It shows there is a lack of political will on behalf of the government to provide justice for 329 people. I request that this matter be referred to the House, transferred for debate and a free vote.

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The Deputy Speaker

Accordingly Motion No. P-11 is transferred for debate.

Motion P-24

That an Order of the House do issue for copies all documents, briefing notes, memos, minutes of meeting, consulting contracts and reports concerning the total taxes paid (including but not limited to: personal income tax, corporate income tax, sales taxes, fuel taxes, user fees, property taxes, royalties. Employment Insurance premiums, Canada Pension Plan premiums, Workers Compensation premiums, etc) to the federal, provincial and municipal governments by farmers in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta and British Columbia.

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LIB

Derek Lee

Liberal

Mr. Derek Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)

Mr. Speaker, the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency finds the motion unacceptable for the reasons outlined as follows.

With reference to Marleau and Montpetit's House of Commons Procedure and Practice , chapter 10, “Responses to Orders for the Production of Papers—Exemptions” at pages 402 and 403, the documents as requested are:

Papers, the release of which might be detrimental to the future conduct of federal-provincial relations or the relations of provinces inter se (the release of papers received from provinces to be subject to the consent of the originating province).

Second, I refer to item 7 which says:

Papers of a voluminous character or which would require an inordinate cost or length of time to prepare.

Furthermore, the information as requested would likely be exempt from disclosure as the confidentiality provisions of section 241 of the Income Tax Act preclude the customs and revenue agency from disclosing any information concerning the income tax affairs of an individual taxpayer.

I would therefore ask the hon. member to withdraw his motion.

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REF

Garry Breitkreuz

Reform

Mr. Garry Breitkreuz (Yorkton—Melville, Canadian Alliance)

Mr. Speaker, I have listened to the excuses that the government has given with regard to this matter and I find them totally unacceptable. I would like to have this motion transferred for debate immediately.

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The Deputy Speaker

The motion is transferred for debate.

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LIB

Derek Lee

Liberal

Mr. Derek Lee

I ask, Mr. Speaker, that all Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers be allowed to stand.

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The Deputy Speaker

Is that agreed?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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LIB

Bob Kilger

Liberal

Mr. Bob Kilger (Stormont—Dundas—Charlottenburgh, Lib.)

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. Discussions have taken place among all parties and the member for Calgary Southeast concerning the taking of the division of Motion No. 160 scheduled at the conclusion of the second hour of private members' business today. I believe there would be consent for the following motion:

That at the conclusion of today's debate on M-160, all questions necessary to dispose of the said motion be deemed put, a recorded division deemed requested and deferred to Tuesday, September 26, 2000, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

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The Deputy Speaker

Is there unanimous consent for the chief government whip to move the motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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The Deputy Speaker

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

(Motion agreed to)

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The House resumed consideration of the motion that Bill C-38, an act to establish the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada and to amend certain acts in relation to financial institutions, be read the second time and referred to a committee.


September 20, 2000