June 15, 2000

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The Deputy Speaker

The hon. member for Surrey Central.

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Subtopic:   Firearms Act
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Gurmant Grewal

Reform

Mr. Gurmant Grewal (Surrey Central, Canadian Alliance)

Mr. Speaker, on November 3, 1999 the HRDC minister said that the TJF projects had been managed properly, but they were not. She then said that the TJF projects went through the acceptable review process, but they did not. She then said that the process had been fully addressed, but it had not.

Why was the minister so economical with the truth but not with taxpayers' dollars?

Topic:   Oral Question Period
Subtopic:   Human Resources Development
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The Deputy Speaker

I think the hon. member for Surrey Central will recognize that he will not want to get into discussions about economy with the truth. He might want to finish putting his question very directly. We will not carry on in that vein.

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Gurmant Grewal

Reform

Mr. Gurmant Grewal

Mr. Speaker, why was the minister not straightforward with the taxpayers? Why was she trying to misguide the House at that time?

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Subtopic:   Human Resources Development
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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

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Subtopic:   Human Resources Development
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The Deputy Speaker

I see there are a lot of cases of foot in mouth disease this afternoon. The question is out of order as framed. However, there was a question there, and if the Minister of Human Resources Development wishes to reply she may do so.

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Subtopic:   Human Resources Development
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Jane Stewart

Liberal

Hon. Jane Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development, Lib.)

Mr. Speaker, I have always tried to be straightforward in my responses.

Today I would continue to reiterate the fact that the transitional jobs fund and the Canada jobs fund have created opportunities for Canadians that would not have otherwise been there.

I would reiterate the fact that the investments that we make through our youth programs have made a difference in the lives of youth, particularly youth at risk.

I would reiterate the fact that we are focused and, together with our partners, we are making a difference to ensure that Canadians with disabilities have a chance to participate in what we know to be one of the greatest economies in recent years and country with the lowest unemployment levels in—

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Subtopic:   Human Resources Development
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The Deputy Speaker

The hon. member for Nanaimo—Alberni.

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Subtopic:   Human Resources Development
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Bill Gilmour

Reform

Mr. Bill Gilmour (Nanaimo—Alberni, Canadian Alliance)

Mr. Speaker, the audit identifying the HRD fiasco found that 15% of the projects did not have an application form, a full quarter did not have a description of what the project entailed, and eight out of ten had no financial monitoring.

Was it the actual findings within the audit or was it the minister's bungling of the audit and the fallout later on that has caused her to be shuffled within the cabinet or perhaps outside the cabinet?

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Subtopic:   Human Resources Development
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Jean Chrétien

Liberal

Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.)

Mr. Speaker, I know that the opposition is not looking at what is needed there because it knows it will never have to deal with this problem.

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Subtopic:   Human Resources Development
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Dennis Gruending

New Democratic Party

Mr. Dennis Gruending (Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, NDP)

Mr. Speaker, the environment minister continues to insist that protecting the drinking water of Canadians is not his business. We do not believe that and neither do Canadians. Even Liberal backbenchers, and here I am thinking of the member for Oxford, have begun to speak out.

The Environmental Protection Act gives the minister the power to act when the health of Canadians is at risk.

When individuals contact the minister this summer, as surely they will, about the concerns for safety in their drinking water, what action is he prepared to take?

Topic:   Oral Question Period
Subtopic:   The Environment
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David Anderson

Liberal

Hon. David Anderson (Minister of the Environment, Lib.)

Mr. Speaker, the tragic events at Walkerton should not be used for crass political advantage.

The member knows that the federal Department of Health, in conjunction with the ministries of health in the provinces and the territories, sets the standard for various substances in water. For E. coli it is zero parts per million.

He also knows that the system of distribution of drinking water in the province of Ontario is essentially the responsibility of the municipalities, supervised by the provincial government. If he wants to have a system where all three levels of government get in one another's way allowing the—

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Subtopic:   The Environment
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The Deputy Speaker

The hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre.

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Subtopic:   The Environment
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Judy Wasylycia-Leis

New Democratic Party

Ms. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre, NDP)

Mr. Speaker, the government seems to have learned nothing from the lessons of the past.

Its attitude of indifference to tainted water is no different than its attitude to tainted blood. It cannot even keep its commitments to the victims of hepatitis C. It has been two years, two months and twenty days since the government made its limited compensation offer. To this moment, not a penny has flowed and victims are getting sicker and weaker and many are dying.

Since we are almost at Canada Day, a day of national pride, will the minister undertake to flow the money before July 1?

Topic:   Oral Question Period
Subtopic:   Health
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Allan Rock

Liberal

Hon. Allan Rock (Minister of Health, Lib.)

Mr. Speaker, the member knows that it is because of the leadership of this government that thousands and thousands of people who were infected with hepatitis C were not required to go through a decade in court.

We co-ordinated governments across the country to make an offer to compensate them appropriately. That has now been approved by the courts and we are now at the point where the courts are going to supervise the distribution of those moneys.

The member should acknowledge that this government, under the leadership of the Prime Minister, saved those people years before the courts.

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Subtopic:   Health
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Peter MacKay

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Peter MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough, PC)

Mr. Speaker, as the Liberal election readiness team gears up and the cabinet shuffle demons rear their heads, the justice minister plans to announce a reduction in gun registration fees.

That is a nice gesture, but it will create further confusion for those who have already paid. Add to this, the list of spiralling costs, huge rates of error, low participation and a backlogged system, and the justice minister is going to revel in her supreme court slap on the provinces and the territories.

Perhaps she could explain to Canadians in simple terms just how this expensive, ineffective registry system will protect Canadians.

Topic:   Oral Question Period
Subtopic:   Gun Registry
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Anne McLellan

Liberal

Hon. Anne McLellan (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, Lib.)

Mr. Speaker, it is too bad that the vast majority of Canadians get it, this side of the House gets it, the Supreme Court of Canada seems to get it but the member opposite does not get it.

Topic:   Oral Question Period
Subtopic:   Gun Registry
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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

Topic:   Oral Question Period
Subtopic:   Gun Registry
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The Deputy Speaker

Order, please. It is very difficult to hear the reply of the minister. I know she is struggling against a lot of noise at the far end of the Chamber that is almost out of my hearing, but I cannot hear her. The hon. the Minister of Justice has the floor.

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Subtopic:   Gun Registry
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Anne McLellan

Liberal

Hon. Anne McLellan

Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier, the supreme court unanimously confirmed today, our Firearms Act is about public safety.

Canadians support this legislation because they know it is about public safety. Therefore, I would encourage everyone in the House, in particular the hon. member, to encourage Canadians wherever they live to comply with this law.

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Subtopic:   Gun Registry
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June 15, 2000