June 14, 1993

LIB

David Charles Dingwall

Liberal

Mr. David Dingwall (Cape Breton -East Richmond):

As I was saying, the disdain that my colleagues from the New Democratic Party have for those who reside in Atlantic Canada is best shown not by remarks that I may make but by those made by members from their own particular party. In fact, they made the unbelievable statement in this Chamber not long ago that no one has given an assessment of the fixed link. That was the intellectual snobbery of the New Democratic Party as evidenced in this House.

I know the member for Skeena is going off to another job and another vocation and I wish him well but for God's sake he should not misrepresent the decisions that people in Atlantic Canada have made with regard to their future, whether they are in economic or environmental terms. I want you to know, Mr. Speaker, that consultations took place in November and December 1987. I am going to table this. In January 1988, 12 public debates were held on Prince Edward Island by the province. In January 1988 the Prince Edward Island government held a plebiscite. If there is not an assessment done what better example can I give to my hon. friend from the New Democratic Party than that the people of Prince Edward Island have decided in a plebiscite that they want the fixed link? What intellectual snobbery from the hon. member for Skeena to suggest otherwise. [DOT]

As we can see, this particular subject matter is of passing interest to those of us who come from the great province of Nova Scotia. However, to stand in this House and to allow the perception to go on that nothing has been done to look at the environmental assessment of this particular project is not only false but it is a distortion of the facts and it is unbecoming of the hon. member who sits to my left.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT CROSSING ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO ENACT
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Some hon. members:

Hear, hear.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT CROSSING ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO ENACT
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NDP

James Ross Fulton

New Democratic Party

Mr. Fulton:

A point of order.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT CROSSING ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO ENACT
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LIB

David Charles Dingwall

Liberal

Mr. Dingwall:

Mr. Speaker, am I going to be continually interrupted by this individual who had his opportunity to speak-

Government Orders

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT CROSSING ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO ENACT
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PC

Steve Eugene Paproski (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Progressive Conservative

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Paproski):

I have to go ahead and listen to his point of order and I will rule on it.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT CROSSING ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO ENACT
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NDP

James Ross Fulton

New Democratic Party

Mr. Fulton:

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. Just for the public record the environmental assessment and review turned the generic bridge proposal down.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT CROSSING ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO ENACT
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LIB

David Charles Dingwall

Liberal

Mr. Dingwall:

I think I have hit a raw nerve.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT CROSSING ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO ENACT
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An hon. member:

It is the truth.

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Subtopic:   NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT CROSSING ACT
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LIB

David Charles Dingwall

Liberal

Mr. Dingwall:

The hon. member would not know how to spell truth let alone talk about truth. This is the same party that comes to this House day in and day out talking about the opportunities that we in Atlantic Canada must have in order to survive and prosper. With the first economic project that comes along what does the New Democratic Party do? It does a filibuster not only in this House but it writes to Canadians across this country in order to preclude this project from taking place.

I want you, Mr. Speaker, to note these dates: December 1987, January 1988, June 1989, March 1990, April 1991, January 1993, April 1993 and May 1993. Those are the public consultations which I will table on the completion of my speech. This is the same party that stands in its place and says that no environmental assessments have been done on the marine aspect and on the fisheries. There have been not 1, 2, 3, 10 or 20 but 24 different studies done. I will table those for the benefit of members opposite and members in this House.

This is the same hon. member and the same party standing in place saying that no environmental assessment has been done with regard to ice. There have been not 2, 5, 10 or 15 but 17 different studies done on ice. I table that for the hon. member opposite.

There is the wind and tide. Something that the hon. member is very familiar with is wind. Have there been any studies done with regard to wind? There have been not one or two but four comprehensive studies done with regard to wind.

What about the social and economic benefits of this particular project? Have there been any studies done by the Government of Canada, the Government of New Brunswick and the Government of Prince Edward Island? If we listen to the hon. member down in the left corner, where his group will remain for centuries to come, there has been not one or two but nine different socioeconomic studies done with regard to this particular

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project. I table that for the hon. member to reflect upon during the next 24 hours.

What about miscellaneous reports done by such distinguished groups as the Atlantic Provinces Economic Council, the Atlantic Geoscience Centre, Coles Associates Limited, Environment Canada and Geo-Consulting Engineers? There were not 1, 2, 3, 10 or 20 but 23 different studies done with regard to this particular project. I table that for the hon. member in the left-hand corner of this House who will remain there for an indefinite period of time.

What about the FEARO and related reports? Four studies have been done with regard to that. I am a member who is not like those intellectual snobs in the New Democratic Party. There have been 10 terrestrial studies done. There have been four reports done on the list of strait crossings and there are related reports. Therefore I table all of these reports, both consultations and substantive reports, for the hon. members opposite as well as those in the New Democratic Party so that they can reflect on them.

Hon. members must understand why I will not be here tomorrow, but in the final moment I have now I would like to say that the height of hypocrisy and the height of disdain for those of us who live in Atlantic Canada comes from that group in the corner of this House that is trying to dictate to the people of Atlantic Canada what is important about their futures.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT CROSSING ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO ENACT
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PC

Steve Eugene Paproski (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Progressive Conservative

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Paproski):

It being two o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House will now proceed to statements by members pursuant to Standing Order 31.

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Subtopic:   NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT CROSSING ACT
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STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S. O. 31

PC

Guy St-Julien

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Guy Saint-Julien (Abitibi):

Mr. Speaker, first of all I would like to congratulate the Hon. Kim Campbell for winning the leadership of the Progressive Conservative Party.

I also want to pay special tribute to the hon. member for Sherbrooke for the excellent way in which he conducted his campaign.

The competence and performance of our candidate has increasingly impressed Canadians. Many people attribute this to his relaxed attitude, his comprehensive grasp of current issues and his clear vision of the future. After yesterday, we can also admire his courage, frankness and diplomacy.

Today is another day for this admirable member of Parliament and together we will develop strategies for change within the Conservative Party.

We were and we still are proud to support our candidate. Thank you Jean, thank you Michele, thank you to the volunteers in the Charest team across Canada and in Quebec, and thank you to the people of the riding of Sherbrooke. See you soon.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S. O. 31
Sub-subtopic:   HON. JEAN CHAREST
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HON. KIM CAMPBELL

LIB

Fred J. Mifflin

Liberal

Mr. Fred J. Mifflin (Bonavista-Trinity -Conception):

Madam Speaker, I rise to congratulate the newly elected Conservative leader who will be sworn in as Prime Minister in a few days.

The party leadership convention is over but a far harder test faces the new leader: the challenge of running the country. The new Tory leader is on record as being 100 per cent committed to continue the policies of the Minister for International Trade, including the GST, the FTA, the NAFTA and 38 tax increases.

She sat and agreed in cabinet while the government played demolition derby with Atlantic Canada. It closed down the fishery, closed down the transportation system, closed down post offices and drastically reduced provincial transfer payments to cause reductions in health services and increases in tuition fees.

The biggest questions now are: How will the Conservatives recast themselves after nine disastrous years in office and how will Canada be positioned for economic growth and job creation?

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There is plenty of scope for quick action by a new Prime Minister, but since there is no mandate the clear priority is first and foremost to call a federal election and allow Canadians to pass judgment.

-k *k

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   HON. KIM CAMPBELL
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CONSERVATIVE PARTY

PC

Godfrey Stanley (Stan) Wilbee

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Stan Wilbee (Delta):

Madam Speaker, as chairman of the B.C. caucus I am delighted to congratulate the soon to be 19th Prime Minister of Canada.

Not only is Kim Campbell the first woman to hold that position, but she is also the first person born in British Columbia to hold the highest elected office in the country. I am sure all British Columbians and all Canadians will wish her well in her new office. We know that all of Canada will benefit and prosper under her leadership.

At the same time I would like to congratulate all the other candidates for their outstanding contributions to the campaign and, more important, to Canada.

I would particularly like to express my appreciation to the hon. Jean Charest for his excellent campaign. I am looking forward to the major contributions that he will no doubt make in Canada's future. A great future for Canada is assured with quality people like those who participated in our leadership race these past few months.

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Subtopic:   CONSERVATIVE PARTY
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CONSERVATIVE PARTY

LIB

Sergio Marchi

Liberal

Mr. Sergio Marchi (York West):

Madam Speaker, while the Conservative Party will now be led by new Tories for Canadians across the country, especially in Ontario, it really is the same old story.

There was the new leader Banked by the trade minister. Imagine embracing the father of the GST, the FTA, NAFPA, an economic agenda that has cost so much economic pain and betrayal. So much for her so-called new politics.

Imagine embracing the member for Don Valley North, the mother of the Tory solution for combating poverty whose answers lie in reducing the poverty line and damning the food banks. So much for her politics of inclusion.

Imagine embracing the outgoing Prime Minister, a man who was the star of the Tory convention yet is

despised by Canadians across the countiy. So much for her being in touch with the aspirations of ordinary Canadians.

No, the Tories did not turn the page. The chapter in this unfortunate saga continues.

They had an option yesterday. They could have said no to their old ways. However in rejecting a new course they merely confirmed that the new Tory is really an old Tory, which is nothing but the same old story.

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CONSERVATIVE PARTY

PC

Robert Alfred Corbett

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Bob Corbett (Fundy-Royal):

Madam Speaker, I would like to congratulate the hon. Minister of National Defence, Canada's soon to be 19th Prime Minister, for her historic victory this weekend.

My colleagues who let their names stand in the leadership race also deserve credit, particularly the hon. Minister of the Environment whose own campaign sparked enthusiasm and interest and generated tremendous excitement in the selection of Canada's 19th Prime Minister and the new leader of our party.

It is a great moment in both Canadian political and national life. Rest assured that today the PC Party stands strong and united and is prepared to move into the future and win the next election.

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Subtopic:   CONSERVATIVE PARTY
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June 14, 1993