December 20, 1988

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Barbara Jane (Bobbie) Sparrow

Progressive Conservative

Mrs. Sparrow:

No. We brought in research and development.

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Sidney James Parker

New Democratic Party

Mr. Parker:

Show me the jobs that were created by the program. Show me the jobs in Kootenay East. Jobs have been lost in Kootenay East. Our pensioners are now paying three and four times more for their drugs than they have paid at any other time. This is as a result of the Free Trade Agreement, whether or not Hon. Members opposite agree. It was done as a gesture to the Americans. The Conservatives have given thousands of profitable corporations-

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An Hon. Member:

You are a total stranger to the truth.

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Sidney James Parker

New Democratic Party

Mr. Parker:

He says that I am a stranger to the truth. I can remember when the great debate took place in the 1984 election and the Liberals were criticized for patronage appointments. We saw what happened after the Conservatives were elected.

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John Horton McDermid (Minister of State (Housing); Minister of State (International Trade))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McDermid:

We took care of your House Leader. His name was Ian Deans. We took care of Stephen Lewis. We took care of all your friends. All your friends got good jobs. You are just sore because you did not get one.

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Sidney James Parker

New Democratic Party

Mr. Parker:

Mr. Chairman, they are getting a little rattled.

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Marcel Danis (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

The Chairman:

Order, please. After we have some quiet, the Member may continue.

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Sidney James Parker

New Democratic Party

Mr. Parker:

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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John Horton McDermid (Minister of State (Housing); Minister of State (International Trade))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McDermid:

What has this got to do with the Free Trade Agreement, Mr. Chairman?

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Sidney James Parker

New Democratic Party

Mr. Parker:

Mr. Chairman, they talk about

"honesty" and they talk about "trust us". Let us talk about whether we can trust them. Let us talk about whether we can trust them with the Free Trade Agreement. I can remember the Hon. Member for York- Peel in this House, who was found guilty on 14 different counts of conflict of interest, not one, not two, and $600,000 of the taxpayers' money was used to try to defend him.

I say to small businessmen out there who are supporting the Conservative Government: "If you got yourself

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into a situation where you would be charged, and you were found guilty on 14 different charges, would the Government come and pay your legal fees?" I do not think so.

Before I close, I wan to discuss water. I think water is what this agreement is all about; this is taken from Wildlife International. As I said before, with regard to the Columbia River Treaty and how it affected our water, I remember that we as a municipality decided it was too costly for us to run a city water main to irrigate our golf courses. We wanted to pump water out of the Columbia River reservoir to irrigate our golf course. Do you know that we could not do that in Canada? We had to get permission from the International Joint Water Commission and the Americans to take water from our own rivers and our own country to irrigate a golf course within our own country.

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John Horton McDermid (Minister of State (Housing); Minister of State (International Trade))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McDermid:

Who sat on the joint commission? Why did they set up a joint commission?

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Sidney James Parker

New Democratic Party

Mr. Parker:

It does not matter who sat on it. I am saying that we better clarify what we have. I have an article here. There is a loophole in the controversial Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement which could have an unwanted impact on Canada's most essential natural resource, water. It reads:

U.S. politicians have already voiced the possibility of future needs for Canadian water, says Donna Leith, Director of the Education and Information Program at the Rawson Academy of Aquatic Science.

As the agreement stands now, says Leith, our American neighbours, who face worsening H20 shortages, have equal access rights to all precious Canadian waters.

That is what it says. Here is what she says is the solution to it:

The only solution to strengthen Canada's position, she says, is to implement a joint Canada-U.S. Declaration of Meaning which clearly excludes water from the trade agreement.

This was not done.

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John Horton McDermid (Minister of State (Housing); Minister of State (International Trade))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McDermid:

Who said that?

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Sidney James Parker

New Democratic Party

Mr. Parker:

I told you who it was. It comes from Wildlife International of November and December, 1988, and her name is Donna Leith, Director of the Education and Information Program at the Rawson Academy of Aquatic Science.

So note that and let us do something.

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John Horton McDermid (Minister of State (Housing); Minister of State (International Trade))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McDermid:

I have met with them before.

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Sidney James Parker

New Democratic Party

Mr. Parker:

You have met with them.

December 20, 1988

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John Horton McDermid (Minister of State (Housing); Minister of State (International Trade))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McDermid:

I know where they are coming from, and you are wrong.

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Marcel Danis (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

The Chairman:

The Hon. Member's time has expired.

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Douglas Fee

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fee:

Mr. Chairman, first I would like to echo the comments made by my predecessors on both sides of the House. They stated what an honour it was to dedicate their maiden speeches in this House to such an important topic as the free trade debate. I doubt whether Parliament has faced such an important issue since the Second World War.

I would like to offer my congratulations to you and to your colleagues in the chair on your appointments. It is very apparent, even to a newcomer like myself, that you and your colleagues are all held in very high esteem by the House. I wish you very good fortune as you face the challenges ahead.

It is also a privilege for me to stand in this House as the representative for Red Deer. I would like to take this opportunity to express my appreciation and gratitude to the voters of Red Deer for placing their faith and confidence in me. It is with a great deal of humility that I take up this role, standing as I do in the shadow of such a fine and able servant of the people as was my predecessor, the Hon. Gordon Towers.

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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

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December 20, 1988