December 13, 1988

PC

Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the NDP says that the programs are needed now and he ties that statement to a quote of mine on November 25. That quote on November 25 was in regard to the Free Trade Agreement which will come into effect beginning on January 1. There is no correlation whatsoever between what the hon. gentleman says now and that, which is not to diminish the need for better retraining programs on behalf of employees in Canada.

My hon. friend refers to some of the job changes that have occurred. Some four million Canadians a year change jobs for various reasons. We have a very dynamic and mobile workforce. Retraining will always be a great challenge for the federal and the provincial Governments.

What my hon. friend should, I think, remember, is that the record of 1.3 million new jobs that have been created over the last four years, leading the industrialized world, can and will be maintained with the dynamic and modern approaches that we have adopted with the Free Trade Agreement.

December 13, 1988

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST THAT GOVERNMENT INTRODUCE NEW PROGRAMS
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NDP

John Edward Broadbent

New Democratic Party

Mr. Broadbent:

Mr. Speaker, the new jobs that have been created, and the Prime Minister knows this, do not directly affect the people who are laid off at Gillette, Catelli, Pittsburgh Paint or any other industry that is making decisions in the context of free trade. That is the reality and the Prime Minister knows it.

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Subtopic:   REQUEST THAT GOVERNMENT INTRODUCE NEW PROGRAMS
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GOVERNMENT PRIORITIES

NDP

John Edward Broadbent

New Democratic Party

Hon. Edward Broadbent (Oshawa):

Mr. Speaker, my question is very direct. The Government has expressed its intention to adjourn the House till the spring, but the workers who have lost their jobs have lost them recently. Why does the Conservative Government give priority to giving time off to its members rather than dealing with the layoffs? Is that Tory justice?

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Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT PRIORITIES
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PC

Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, major programs have been established throughout the country to assist workers laid off because of technological changes. It is a fact of life in industrialized societies and that situation is not about to change, unfortunately. A responsible government must therefore provide the affected workers with the most generous programs possible. That is what we have done and will continue to do.

My hon. friend brings up some problems with the Gillette company, which is a real problem. But he does not mention the $500 million investment in the Trois-Rivieres region in the aluminum sector, which is going to create hundreds of jobs. He does not mention the hundreds of jobs created at National Sea Products in Lunenberg and at Hearn Harbour Terminals in Windsor.

Du Pont Canada plans to double its capital spending for 1989 to $156 million. There will be 480 new jobs at a new Cargill Limited slaughter house in High River, Alberta. There are 90 new jobs at Quaker Oats, Campbell Soup, et cetera.

Of course, jobs are lost regularly as a result of technological change. Many more new jobs are created because of the new climate of cooperation with the provinces fostered by this Government.

Oral Questions

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Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT PRIORITIES
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AUDITOR GENERAL'S REPORT

LIB

Ronald MacDonald

Liberal

Mr. Ron MacDonald (Dartmouth):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Prime Minister and concerns the Report of the Auditor General. The Auditor General has chronicled case after case of questionable projects approved under the Canada-Nova Scotia offshore Development Fund. Of the $130 million approved to date, the Auditor General concludes that fully $75 million worth of projects is questionable as to their eligibility under the fund.

Will the Prime Minister now give this House and the people of Nova Scotia his assurance that a full investigation will be undertaken and, where evidence of misappropriation is found, that the Government of Canada will replenish the fund for the amounts spent which did not meet program criteria?

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Subtopic:   AUDITOR GENERAL'S REPORT
Sub-subtopic:   CANADA-NOVA SCOTIA DEVELOPMENT FUND
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PC

Marcel Masse (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Marcel Masse (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources):

Mr. Speaker, for four years, this Government has operated on the basic premise that the provinces are partners with the Canadian Government in developing policies within their jurisdiction, and it intends to maintain this attitude in the present mandate.

In this spirit, an accord was signed between the Governments of Canada and of Nova Scotia to give this province the means to develop its infrastructure when offshore development occurs. The Government of Nova Scotia did what it was entitled to do, namely present us with its priorities for developing its own territory, and this Government recognizes its responsibility and treats Nova Scotia as a full partner, Mr. Speaker.

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Subtopic:   AUDITOR GENERAL'S REPORT
Sub-subtopic:   CANADA-NOVA SCOTIA DEVELOPMENT FUND
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DARTMOUTH SEWAGE SYSTEM PROJECT

LIB

Ronald MacDonald

Liberal

Mr. Ron MacDonald (Dartmouth):

Mr. Speaker, my supplementary question is directed to the Prime Minister because that answer is simply unacceptable.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   DARTMOUTH SEWAGE SYSTEM PROJECT
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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   DARTMOUTH SEWAGE SYSTEM PROJECT
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LIB

Ronald MacDonald

Liberal

Mr. MacDonald (Dartmouth):

The federal Minister has the responsibility to sign off on each and every one of those projects. My supplementary question deals with a specific project. I wish to know under what specific program criteria did the federal Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources approve $2.3 million for the

December 13, 1988

Oral Questions

construction of a sewage system for Portland Estates, a private residential development in Dartmouth.

Is every private development in Nova Scotia now eligible for such funding, or has this particular project qualified solely on the basis of the developer's personal friendship with the Conservative Government of Nova Scotia?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   DARTMOUTH SEWAGE SYSTEM PROJECT
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PC

Marcel Masse (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Marcel Masse (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources):

Mr. Speaker, the development of Nova Scotia's territory is primarily a responsibility of the Government of Nova Scotia. With this in mind, this Government drafted and approved . .. and Parliament approved the legislation and funds required for the development of these programs. We recognize the responsibility of the Government of Nova Scotia, and we are particularly proud that Government of Canada

money was spent for the development of Nova Scotia's territory.

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Subtopic:   DARTMOUTH SEWAGE SYSTEM PROJECT
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AIRPORTS

LIB

Stan Kazmierczak Keyes

Liberal

Mr. Stan Keyes (Hamilton West):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Transport. Ordinarily this is a wonderful time of year for Canadians. Unfortunately, many Canadians are finding

themselves frustrated and harassed by the fiasco at Pearson International Airport in Toronto, frustrated by lengthy delays, congested airways, and real danger to lives. In view of the fact that there is a viable, underused and highly accessible airport at Hamilton, will the Minister of Transport finally take immediate action to improve the situation and redirect traffic to the Hamilton airport, or will it take a catastrophe before the Government acts?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   AIRPORTS
Sub-subtopic:   PEARSON INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT-REQUEST TRAFFIC BE REDIRECTED TO HAMILTON
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PC

Shirley Martin (Minister of State (Transport))

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Shirley Martin (Minister of State (Transport)):

Mr. Speaker, as the Hon. Member for Hamilton West well knows, action was taken at Pearson International Airport on Friday when we started to control the traffic flow through Pearson by the number of flights per hour. That action has been taken. Traffic moved well yesterday and it moved well today. It will continue to move over the Christmas season to make sure that Canadians

will be able to travel home with the least amount of delay possible.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   AIRPORTS
Sub-subtopic:   PEARSON INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT-REQUEST TRAFFIC BE REDIRECTED TO HAMILTON
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REQUEST FOR ACTION

LIB

Stan Kazmierczak Keyes

Liberal

Mr. Stan Keyes (Hamilton West):

Mr. Speaker, interestingly enough, another Hon. Member from the Hamilton area on the government side of the House has indicated that he cannot condone his own junior Minister's statements of Friday.

I might point out to the junior Minister that three years ago the Liberal Party pleaded that the Government designate Hamilton airport as an under-used airport. Three years have passed. Would the Minister of Transport redirect air traffic from a paralysed Pearson to the under-used, viable Hamilton airport immediately?

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Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR ACTION
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PC

Shirley Martin (Minister of State (Transport))

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Shirley Martin (Minister of State (Transport)):

Mr. Speaker, the traffic through Pearson International Airport is not paralysed at this time and it is flowing.

As far as the Hamilton Airport is concerned we have been working over the last four years with the people there to make sure the airport is utilized.

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Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR ACTION
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LIB

December 13, 1988