September 21, 1988

PC

Finlay MacDonald

Progressive Conservative

Miss MacDonald:

He just answered that.

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Subtopic:   NUMBER OF TESTS
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NDP

Pauline Jewett

New Democratic Party

Ms. Jewett:

His Assistant Deputy said there were 10 or 12 tests. How many tests were there? Has there been any followup on those who submitted to these tests?

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PC

William James Kempling (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Works)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Kempling:

Yes.

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Subtopic:   NUMBER OF TESTS
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PC
NDP

Pauline Jewett

New Democratic Party

Ms. Jewett:

Tell me exactly who was subject as a guinea pig to these nerve gas tests?

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Subtopic:   NUMBER OF TESTS
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PC

Henry Perrin Beatty (Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Perrin Beatty (Minister of National Defence):

Mr. Speaker, I think any reading of Hansard will show that I answered the question that was asked. Now the Hon. Member changes the question.

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NDP

Pauline Jewett

New Democratic Party

Ms. Jewett:

I said how many. That was the question.

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PC

Henry Perrin Beatty (Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Beatty:

If she will permit me to answer the question instead of shouting-

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NDP
PC

Henry Perrin Beatty (Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Beatty:

If the Hon. Member will permit an answer I will be glad to give it.

We have gone back. There have been none in the past 20 years whatsoever.

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NDP
PC

Henry Perrin Beatty (Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Beatty:

During the 1960s we have been able to identify some nine separate tests. We are looking for information on that at the present time. In terms of who was involved, as I have indicated, in the vast majority of instances it was civilian researchers at DRES themselves.

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NDP
PC

Henry Perrin Beatty (Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Beatty:

Who? Civilian researchers at DRES themselves.

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Subtopic:   NUMBER OF TESTS
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NDP

Pauline Jewett

New Democratic Party

Ms. Jewett:

Any lasting effects?

September 21, 1988

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PC

Henry Perrin Beatty (Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Beatty:

The Hon. Member asks how do we know, then, that there have not been any long-term effects. It is because civilian researchers at DRES are required to take annual medical check-ups. If the annual medical check-ups of these civilian researchers had shown any problems associated with exposure to nerve gas we would have known.

Notwithstanding that fact, I have asked my staff to go back and try to identify the individuals involved in each case and to do follow-up studies, notwithstanding the fact that never has there been any evidence of any long-term effects. But in view of the fears that are being created by the NDP, I think we owe it to these employees to do follow-up tests.

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ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE

LIB

John V. Nunziata

Liberal

Mr. John Nunziata (York South-Weston):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Deputy Prime Minister. It concerns a matter which falls into the jurisdiction of the Solicitor General, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Can the Deputy Prime Minister confirm that the RCMP are in the process of conducting an investigation into the conduct of two Members of the Conservative Caucus, the Hon. Member for La Prairie and the Hon. Member for Hochelega-Maison-neuve? Can he indicate to the House the nature of the RCMP investigation?

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Subtopic:   ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
Sub-subtopic:   ALLEGED INVESTIGATION OF MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
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PC

Ramon John Hnatyshyn (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Ray Hnatyshyn (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada):

Mr. Speaker, in the absence of the Solicitor General I will take the question as notice. I have not been informed of any such investigation as Acting Solicitor General, but I will take the question and make the appropriate inquiries.

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Subtopic:   ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
Sub-subtopic:   ALLEGED INVESTIGATION OF MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
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REQUEST THAT MINISTER MAKE INQUIRIES

September 21, 1988