September 1, 1988

LIB

Jean-Robert Gauthier (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Liberal Party)

Liberal

Mr. Jean-Robert Gauthier (Ottawa-Vanier):

Mr. Speaker, I have 17 petitions concerning the Mulroney-Reagan trade agreement to table today. The petitioners humbly declare that the Mulroney Government has sold out Canada without obtaining anything in return; that Canadian industries are still not protected from American trade laws; that the United States got everything they wanted in all the important sectors, in particular in agriculture, energy, automobile trade, financial services and investments; that the jobs of thousands of Canadians are threatened; that the Conservative Government has not provided any adjustment assistance for Canadian workers.

For these reasons, they humbly ask Parliament to censure the Government for having signed the Mulroney-Reagan Agreement.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   PETITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADA-U.S. FREE TRADE AGREEMENT
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NDP

Jack Harris

New Democratic Party

Mr. Jack Harris (St. John's East):

Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to present, on behalf of petitioners from the cities of Cambridge, Kitchener and Waterloo, Ontario, a petition in which the petitioners say that families throughout Canada need high quality, available, affordable child care services and that the Government of Canada must introduce legislation containing national objectives and appropriate mechanisms for a comprehensive, non-profit child care system and that the child care Bill proposed by the Government contains neither national objectives nor necessary funding arrangements. The petitioners call upon Parliament to withdraw the child care Bill forthwith.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   PETITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   PROPOSED CANADA CHILD CARE ACT
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PC

Andrew Witer

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Andrew Witer (Parkdale-High Park):

Mr. Speaker, it is my privilege to present to the House today 16 petitions on

behalf of Toronto residents who wish to state their opposition to the closure of the Canadian Embassy in Ecuador and the hardship imposed on individuals seeking to apply for emigration to Canada or visitors' visas. The petition urges Parliament and the Secretary of State for External Affairs (Mr. Clark) to reopen the Canadian Embassy in Ecuador.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   PETITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   CLOSING OF EMBASSY IN ECUADOR
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NDP

Iain Francis Angus (N.D.P. Caucus Chair)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Iain Angus (Thunder Bay-Atikokan):

Mr. Speaker, 1 have the honour and privilege of tabling a petition today, a petition that has been certified correct and true to form by the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 106. The petitioners who are residents of the Province of Ontario are concerned about the child care Bill currently before Parliament. They point out that it has been recommended that child care services be available for families throughout this country, that the legislation should contain national objectives and appropriate mechanisms for the development of a comprehensive, non-profit child care system accessible to all families throughout Canada and they call upon Parliament to withdraw the child care Bill forthwith.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   PETITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   PROPOSED CANADA CHILD CARE ACT
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NDP

Howard Douglas McCurdy

New Democratic Party

Mr. Howard McCurdy (Windsor-Walkerville):

Mr. Speaker, I too have the honour and privilege and indeed the obligation of presenting a petition signed by a number of citizens of Canada. The petition has been properly certified by the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 106. In this petition, the petitioners point out the need in Canada for high quality, available, affordable child care services and point out the fact that these services should be available for all families. They say that these services should meet certain national objectives and that there should be appropriate mechanisms provided for the development of a comprehensive, non-profit child care system which is accessible to all families. Whereas the child care Bill proposed by the Government of Canada contains neither national objectives nor necessary funding arrangements and will not ensure that families have access to high quality care, the petitioners call upon the Parliament of Canada and the Government of Canada to withdraw the child care Bill forthwith.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   PETITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   PROPOSED CANADA CHILD CARE ACT
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QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


PC

Frederick James (Jim) Hawkes (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Privy Council)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Jim Hawkes (Parliamentary Secretary to Deputy Prime Minister and President of the Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, I would ask that all questions be allowed to stand.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
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PC

John Allen Fraser (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Shall all questions be allowed to stand?

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
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Some Hon. Members:

Agreed.

September 1, 1988

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
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POINT OF ORDER

PRESENTING PETITIONS

PC

Frederick James (Jim) Hawkes (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Privy Council)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Jim Hawkes (Parliamentary Secretary to Deputy Prime Minister and President of the Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, while I have the floor, 1 would just indicate that during Petitions, the rules of the House were deliberately broken by the Whip of the Official Opposition. In light of what happened yesterday and in light of arguments earlier this morning, a dangerous trend is developing. People are deliberately breaking the rules of the House.

Topic:   POINT OF ORDER
Subtopic:   PRESENTING PETITIONS
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PC

John Allen Fraser (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

As Speaker, naturally I have to take into account the representation of the Hon. Parliamentary Secretary, and I assure him and other Hon. Members that 1 will be careful to ensure that the rules of the House are not broken, and if they are, I will try to take appropriate action.

Topic:   POINT OF ORDER
Subtopic:   PRESENTING PETITIONS
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LIB

Jean-Robert Gauthier (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Liberal Party)

Liberal

Mr. Jean-Robert Gauthier (Ottawa-Vanier):

Mr. Speaker, since the Parliamentary Secretary has bootlegged in this accusation, I would like him to make a specific charge if he has one as to what rule was broken. The petitions I tabled were certified by the Clerk of Petitions as being appropriate. They were tabled in due course and at the appropriate time. There is nothing wrong with that.

Topic:   POINT OF ORDER
Subtopic:   PRESENTING PETITIONS
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PC

John Allen Fraser (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I think I can settle that. The Hon. Parliamentary Secretary has raised a matter and I said that I would of course always be conscious of matters that are raised. I made no ruling one way or the other as to whether or not the Hon. Member for Ottawa-Vanier (Mr. Gauthier) was in breach of the rules, and I take the representations of the Hon. Parliamentary Secretary as just that. I do not, in my comments, indicate for a moment that I have made any decision that the Hon. Member for Ottawa-Vanier was in breach of the rules.

Topic:   POINT OF ORDER
Subtopic:   PRESENTING PETITIONS
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NDP

Rodney Edward Murphy (Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Rod Murphy (Churchill):

Mr. Speaker, I do not want to belabour the point, and I know you will be reviewing it, but I would like to remind you that this is just one of a number of charges that the Government has made over the last year in an attempt to restrict the ability of Members of Parliament to present petitions. I think in almost every case when this has been done, you have found that the points have not had any validity and you have ruled against them. I suspect that that will be the case again today. We do have a process for having petitions certified. Obviously this took place on this particular occasion, and 1 find it reprehensible that the Parliamentary Secretary continues to try to restrict the ability of Hon. Members to present petitions.

Topic:   POINT OF ORDER
Subtopic:   PRESENTING PETITIONS
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PC

John Allen Fraser (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I did not take it that the Parliamentary Secretary was necessarily trying to restrict the right of Members of Parliament to present petitions. I think his remarks were aimed, perhaps, at the length of the explanation, and these things are matters which the Chair has to take into account. The Chair on occasion has perhaps been too generous, but nonetheless, the Chair has tended to go as far as is appropriate in allowing Hon. Members to express in the Chamber the intentions of their petitions. However, there is of course the rule that the explanation should be brief, and 1

know that all Hon. Members will want to co-operate with me in that regard.

Topic:   POINT OF ORDER
Subtopic:   PRESENTING PETITIONS
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PC

John Allen Fraser (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I want to bring to the attention of Hon. Members the fact that I have received two applications for an emergency debate and they are on the same issue. I first want to point something out. I have some considerable doubt as to whether, given the order, I can even entertain the applications. However, I know the applications, one of which I received last night, are serious.

1 must indicate to both Hon. Members who applied that it will take some persuading for me to move in the direction they ask. However, given the issue I am prepared to perhaps overlook to a degree the order for today and I will hear first the Hon. Member for Winnipeg-Fort Garry (Mr. Axworthy) because his was the first application, and then I will hear the Hon. Member for Oshawa (Mr. Broadbent). It is the same issue and I am sure they will buttress each other's remarks.

Topic:   POINT OF ORDER
Subtopic:   PRESENTING PETITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   MOTION TO ADJOURN UNDER S. O. 29 CANADA-U.S. FREE TRADE AGREEMENT
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PC

Frederick James (Jim) Hawkes (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Privy Council)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hawkes:

Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Given your intention to extend some latitude, and not knowing what is about to be said, I hope the Government will have a right of response if that is indicated.

Topic:   POINT OF ORDER
Subtopic:   PRESENTING PETITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   MOTION TO ADJOURN UNDER S. O. 29 CANADA-U.S. FREE TRADE AGREEMENT
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September 1, 1988