August 11, 1988

PC

Alan Redway

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Alan Redway (York East):

Mr. Speaker, you may recall that on June 29 the Right Hon. Leader of the Official Opposition (Mr. Turner) made a speech in this House on the subject of the Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement. Two days ago the Winnipeg Free Press, commenting editorially on that speech and other statements made by the Right Hon. Member, said, and I quote:

"Mr. Turner took phrases from one part of the agreement and applied them to another; distorted the meaning and intent of other passages, and simply falsified the application of yet others. It is a surprising performance from a man who was once regarded, whatever his political strengths or weaknesses, as a man of integrity."

The editorial went on to say:

"There is room for honest disagreement over the likely effects of free trade. The point at issue in Mr. Turner's approach to free trade is not one of honest disagreement but of simple deliberate distortion."

The editorial concluded:

"John Turner these days has a liking for slogans. "Let the people decide" is his latest. Before the people do decide he might direct another slogan to himself, "Tell the people the truth".

Amen, Mr. Speaker.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES FREE TRADE AGREEMENT-POSITION OF LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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IMMIGRATION

LIB

Sheila Maureen Copps

Liberal

Ms. Sheila Copps (Hamilton East):

Mr. Speaker, I defy the Tories to tell the truth about the immigration mess they created in this country. I speak not only on behalf of hundreds of people in the Hungarian community of the city of Hamilton, but thousands of Hamiltonians who would like to know when the Government is going to clean up the immigration mess it created.

I met this week with a gentleman by the name of Francisc Anghi in my office. He has been waiting for almost two years to get security clearance so he can apply to bring his family from Romania. He is a Hungarian refugee whose family is under political pressure in Romania. In the meantime, one of his sons has died. Another son is suffering a fatal illness. All he wants to know from the Government is how much longer it will take before he gets security clearance so he can apply to bring his family members to Canada. He is desperate, and there are thousands of other Canadians like him.

The Government claimed to be working on a national emergency concerning immigration policy but it created an incredible backlog in security clearances which leaves thousands of frustrated landed immigrants and Canadians waiting for their families to be reunited. What kind of a humane Government will allow a son to die while the father is waiting for his security clearance?

Let us clean up this immigration mess by bringing back a Liberal Government.

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Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   IMMIGRATION
Sub-subtopic:   BACKLOG IN PROCESSING SECURITY CLEARANCES
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CANADA-UNITED STATES FREE TRADE AGREEMENT-POSITION OF LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION


Mir. Marcel R. Tremblay (Quebec-Est): Mr. Speaker, on July 21, I told the Leader of the Opposition that the serious Liberal Senators would not agree to submit to his orders. I therefore suggest that he check or inquire with his Senators and Members of Parliament to see whether others are not preparing to imitate the Johnstons and Van Roggens. What you are asking them, Mr. Leader of the Opposition, is to act undemocratically, and they are opposed to that. All the major newspapers in the country have called your position irresponsible and partisan. In the space of a few weeks, you have contradicted yourself by saying that you were committed to not asking the Liberal Senators to assume your responsibilities for you in the coming weeks. I hope that you are aware of the gratitude you owe Canadians who will keep the Right Hon. Brian Mulroney as Prime Minister and who may once again give you the chance to be just the Leader of the Opposition, which is already a very big favour in your case.


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NDP

Abram Ernest Epp

New Democratic Party

Mr. Ernie Epp (Thunder Bay-Nipigon):

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of State for Multiculturalism is touring the country these days celebrating the new Multiculturalism Act. As a result, he is too busy to consider the redress for Japanese-Canadians the Prime Minister (Mr. Mulroney) promised four years ago. Meanwhile, the U.S. House of Representatives followed the U.S. Senate's lead in passing a redress measure for Japanese-Americans. The U.S. President signed a Bill which provides $20,000 U.S. for every Japanese-American survivor.

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The Mulroney Government should be ashamed of itself. Successive Ministers have failed to deal properly with the National Association of Japanese-Canadians, and they have refused to consider compensation for individual Japanese-Canadian survivors. It is hypocritical to celebrate high sounding principles while one is refusing to act on those principles. The Prime Minister should hide his face in shame for having failed to act on the promises of June, 1984.

Canadians will remember this broken promise as one of the most shameful in the entire Mulroney record.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   VISIBLE MINORITIES
Sub-subtopic:   INTERMENT OF JAPANESE-CANADIANS DURING WORLD WAR II-CALL FOR PAYMENT OF COMPENSATION
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ORAL QUESTION PERIOD

CANADA-UNITED STATES FREE TRADE AGREEMENT-SUPPORT FOR QUEBEC INVESTORS AND INDUSTRIES-PRIME MINISTER'S POSITION

LIB

John Napier Turner (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Right Hon. John N. Turner (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Prime Minister. We all know that members of Cabinet have not even read the trade agreement with the United States. Nevertheless, the official statement or official interpretation by President Reagan says, on page 86, that a province shall grant investors from the other country the same favourable treatment granted investors from that province. President Reagan is saying that the Government of Quebec cannot use special measures to encourage Quebecers to invest in their own province.

What impact does this have on Quebec's stock savings plan? What impact does it have on possible changes in the plan? And what impact will this have on efforts by the Government of Quebec to ensure that Quebec industries are developed and financed by Quebecers?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES FREE TRADE AGREEMENT-SUPPORT FOR QUEBEC INVESTORS AND INDUSTRIES-PRIME MINISTER'S POSITION
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PC

Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, if I am not mistaken, the Government of Quebec has just issued a statement expressing its satisfaction with the trade agreement, and especially with the provisions relating to investment. Perhaps the Leader of the Opposition should also read the press releases and major documents issued by the Government of Quebec.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES FREE TRADE AGREEMENT-SUPPORT FOR QUEBEC INVESTORS AND INDUSTRIES-PRIME MINISTER'S POSITION
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SUPPORT FOR INVESTORS-GOVERNMENT POSITION

LIB

John Napier Turner (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Right Hon. John N. Turner (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I think the Prime Minister of Canada should get in touch with the Premier of Quebec and advise him to read the official U.S. text which makes it quite clear that the Government of Quebec would be prevented from promoting investment by Quebecers in Quebec industries.

Mr. Speaker, I am positive that not a single member of Cabinet read the official statement made by the U.S. President

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Oral Questions

on July 25. I am equally positive that not a single member of Cabinet has read the U.S. bill.

President Reagan also says that no Canadian province may impose local equity provisions. The President also says in his document that no province may give preferential treatment to investors from that province.

What does this mean for a province like Quebec that wants to encourage investment by Quebecers in that province? What does it mean for the Canadian Government, if it wants to encourage Canadians to invest in their own country? I repeat, what are regulations on foreign investment doing in a free trade agreement?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SUPPORT FOR INVESTORS-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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PC

Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition says not a single member of Cabinet has read the agreement and that not a single member of Cabinet has read President Reagan's statement. He is entitled to his opinion, but I think he is wrong. He is also assuming, since his question directly refers to the powers of Quebec, that the Premier of Quebec and, for that matter, the Leader of the Opposition, Mr. Parizeau, have not read the document. However, Robert Bourassa, Jacques Parizeau and practically all Quebec's economic partners have read the document and approved the free trade agreement with the United States.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SUPPORT FOR INVESTORS-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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SMALL PRINT PROVISIONS OF AGREEMENT-GOVERNMENT POSITION

LIB

John Napier Turner (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Right Hon. John N. Turner (Leader of the Opposition):

The

Prime Minister should explain to his Quebec counterpart that President Reagan's statement or official interpretation will prevent the Government of Quebec from using specific preferential measures to promote investment by Quebecers in their own industries.

No wonder there is uncertainty in the country. No one in the Cabinet appears to have read either the Canadian or the American documents. The President's official statement of July 25 says that no province can give a special break to investors from that province.

What is more, page 58 of the American legislation says that the United States will negotiate, in the words of the American Bill, "the elimination of direct investment screening" by Canada including the elimination of all screening of energy and cultural industries.

Does the Prime Minister not realize that not only are all future investment rules out the window but the United States plans to eliminate any rules at all affecting Canadian investment which are currently on the books? Why has no one in his Government bothered to read the fine print in the documents which the Americans have published?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SMALL PRINT PROVISIONS OF AGREEMENT-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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PC

Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, that is an insult to the Hon. Robert Bourassa, the Premier of Quebec! It is a direct attack on the credibility of Mr. Bourassa, who says he has read and understood the entire free trade agreement and endorses that document on behalf of the Government of Quebec and the people of that province. The Leader of the Opposition has grievously insulted the Premier of Quebec, and I think the Premier and Quebecers will remember this as one more insult to Quebec.

With regard to the point made by my friend, the Leader of the Opposition-

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SMALL PRINT PROVISIONS OF AGREEMENT-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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LIB

John Napier Turner (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. Turner (Vancouver Quadra):

You don't know what is in the Bill, that's the problem.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SMALL PRINT PROVISIONS OF AGREEMENT-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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PC

Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mulroney:

He says I do not know what the issue is. Perhaps I could point out to him what the Winnipeg Free Press said yesterday. It said, "the point at issue in Mr. Turner's approach to free trade is not one of honest disagreement but of simple deliberate distortion". That is the opinion of the Winnipeg Free Press and of most Canadians.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SMALL PRINT PROVISIONS OF AGREEMENT-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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August 11, 1988