August 11, 1988

NDP

Simon Leendert de Jong

New Democratic Party

Mr. Simon de Jong (Regina East):

Mr. Speaker, my second question is for the same Minister.

The Finance Committee has issued a good report dealing with credit card charges, bank services charges, and yet we are afraid that once the public spotlight is removed the banks will revert back to former practices as they are now beginning to do with increases in credit charges. Is the Minister prepared to introduce legislation to regulate the banks to ensure that there will be fair banking practices not only for consumers but for the small business community of the country?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR INTRODUCTION OF REGULATORY LEGISLATION
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PC

Thomas Hockin (Minister of State (Finance))

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Tom Hockin (Minister of State (Finance)):

Mr. Speaker, I do not know where the Hon. Member is coming from. His Party wanted a voluntary agreement for bank service charges a month or two months ago. Suddenly the Member and his Party want the Government to do it all. What we have accomplished is that together with legislation and a voluntary approach we have protected the consumers, and improved their relationship with the banks. We will do the same for the small business community as well.

Oral Questions

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Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR INTRODUCTION OF REGULATORY LEGISLATION
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PC

John Allen Fraser (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

There will be a single question from the Hon. Member for Algoma, followed by a single question from the Hon. Member for Fondon East and that will close Question Period. The Hon. Member for Algoma.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR INTRODUCTION OF REGULATORY LEGISLATION
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AGRICULTURE

LIB

Maurice Brydon Foster

Liberal

Mr. Maurice Foster (Algoma):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Agriculture.

Last week he issued a press release announcing the grape adjustment program as a result of the trade deal with the United States. In that press release the Government is committed to a strong and viable grape and wine industry in British Columbia.

Could the Minister explain, since approximately over 2,000 of the 3,400 acres of grape vines are expected to be removed, how you could have a strong and viable grape industry when more than two-thirds of it will be removed? Could the Minister answer even one question for the grape growers? Is the adjustment assistance subject to income tax? The growers have no idea about the program or whether the adjustment assistance will be taxable.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   AGRICULTURE
Sub-subtopic:   GRAPE ADJUSTMENT PROGRAM
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PC

John Wise (Minister of Agriculture)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. John Wise (Minister of Agriculture):

We have not reached a final decision on that particular issue, Mr. Speaker.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   AGRICULTURE
Sub-subtopic:   GRAPE ADJUSTMENT PROGRAM
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VETERANS AFFAIRS

PC

James Kenneth (Jim) Jepson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Jim Jepson (London East):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Veterans Affairs.

Last June at a Royal Canadian Legion Dominion Command convention the Minister announced that the Veterans Independence Program would be extended to those veterans serving Canada in Canada during wartime. We hear from the Opposition of a very imminent election. Could the Minister tell this House whether this program will be in place prior to the next election?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   VETERANS AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VETERANS INDEPENDENCE PROGRAM-EXTENSION OF COVERAGE
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PC

George Harris Hees (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Minister of State (Seniors))

Progressive Conservative

Hon. George Hees (Minister of Veterans Affairs and Minister of State (Seniors)):

Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to answer this very good question from a Member who pays particular attention to the welfare of our veterans who deserve our attention so well.

I would like to advise the Member and all Members in this House that we have been working on this matter very, very hard, with good progress, and by about the middle of next month we expect to be able to announce the date when this will actually take place.

August 11, 1988

Privilege-Mr. Nowlan PRIVILEGE

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   VETERANS AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VETERANS INDEPENDENCE PROGRAM-EXTENSION OF COVERAGE
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REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE

PC

John Patrick (Pat) Nowlan

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pat Nowlan (Annapolis Valley-Hants):

Mr. Speaker, I rise today in deference to the Chair with a tie around my neck and a shirt on my body.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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PC

John Patrick (Pat) Nowlan

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nowlan:

I rise in deference to the Chair but not in deference to common sense. I did not mean to stimulate a national debate yesterday. I really thought we were going to go on to serious things yesterday. In view of the ungainly, unseemly conduct of the New Democrats on something so fundamental as child care, I suggest today, because of the way the New Democrats treated child care yesterday, that my question of privilege on dress for Members is most relevant indeed. If the legislators of the land cannot be dressed comfortably in the halls that make laws, what hope do we have for child care, Mr. Speaker?

Having said that, I am not trying to impede the progress of the House. I sit on the far right wing of the front bench of the Tory Party, and I am glad to be a member of the Tory Party and/or sit on the right wing. Having raised the question of dress I would like to show to my colleagues and to you, Mr. Speaker, that I am not necessarily right wing totally in most situations. If we are inane and stupid enough to meet here on August 10 in the middle of the summer, then I suggest it is time we got our dress code to conform to the realities of the land.

I wrote a letter to you yesterday, Mr. Speaker, after, with respect, you gave a very impetuous and interesting decision.

To quote your words, you would not recognize me "because he was not dressed according to the customs and traditions of the House and, until he is, he will not be recognized". This was your reply to my hon. friend, the Hon. Member for Okanagan-Similkameen (Mr. King), whose area raises second grade apples.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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Some Hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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PC

John Patrick (Pat) Nowlan

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nowlan:

Because he prefaced his remarks on the apple industry and you would not recognize me, you did a great disservice to the apple growers of the Annapolis Valley. Because the bells rang yesterday afternoon I did not want to create a constitutional conference and crisis. If I had come in in my garb as I did in the Question Period, I would have put the Table, the Clerk, the Greffier, Mr. Marleau, and you in an unconscionable position as to whether or not to count my vote. Quite frankly, most of the votes yesterday did not matter a gosh darn anyway.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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Some Hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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PC

John Patrick (Pat) Nowlan

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nowlan:

It could have been that way. I would suggest, Sir, without making a federal issue of the matter-

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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Some Hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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PC

John Patrick (Pat) Nowlan

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nowlan:

-that it is time this matter of dress code was referred at least to the Standing Committee on Management and Members' Services so that we could come up with a rational, reasonable code for the middle of the summer.

I just want to put on record, without taking any more time of the House, my letter to you yesterday:

"Dear Mr. Speaker,

My dear John. With the greatest respect and thoughts to you personally, you made a G.D. ruling. I did not want to create a scene but only to have the matter referred to the Members and Services Committee. For surely if there are summer dress codes everywhere else in the land, ie: messes,-"

That is for the neutral people over there in the NDP. That is armed services messes. It continues:

"-and if we are stupid enough to be here in the summer, then we too should have a summer code.

On the basis of your impetuous and ill-considered ruling, I may come into the House tomorrow in Bermuda shorts and a bikini shirt and reverse the outfit the next day.

Quite frankly, as a Back Bencher, 1 am not too worried about the recognition from the Chair-that is the perpetual state of all Back Benchers, for I truly am concerned about the health of the Members during the summer.

Yours in the Twentieth Century and no bib and tucker for the eons before.

Yours sincerely,

Pat Nowlan

PS: I know 1 am being presumptuous, and you of all people know the reason for the tie, for the men of the old world-chasing women with one hand and eating bones of lamb with the other and sometimes slurped gravy on their waistcoats- those days are gone. There is no more dripping gravy, women are free and so should we-be."

I ask for this matter to be referred to the Management and Members' Services Committee.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

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Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR REFERENCE OF DRESS CODE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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August 11, 1988