December 18, 1987

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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

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John Carnell Crosbie (Minister of Transport)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Crosbie:

Linally, will the Hon. Member comment on the conclusion of Mr. Regan's address to the House of Commons Committee in which he said:

I have sought to stress the removal of tariffs does not threaten culture or sovereignty and that free trade would be golden opportunity for this part of the country.

What will the Hon. Member say to Gerry Regan's part of the country when he goes there to explain that he is against this golden opportunity that Gerry Regan wants for his part of the country, Nova Scotia? What about that?

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William Warren Allmand

Liberal

Mr. Allmand:

Mr. Speaker, I had the opportunity to be with the committee in Halifax when Mr. Regan made that statement. The Hon. Member asked me what I thought about it, and I must tell him, not very much. Of course, Mr. Regan is a delightful fellow. We love him. He is a former Liberal Minister, but at the same time I referred to the statement of the Hon. Eric Kierans who, in my opinion, has higher qualifications-

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Some Hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

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William Warren Allmand

Liberal

Mr. Allmand:

Well, that is what Canadians will have to judge. Let me tell the Hon. Member this. Following the remarks of the Hon. Gerry Regan he was asked a question by the Hon. Member for Cape Breton-East Richmond (Mr. Dingwall)-I think that is his riding.

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Some Hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

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Felix Holtmann

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Holtmann:

He is a member of your Party.

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William Warren Allmand

Liberal

Mr. Allmand:

They consider that funny. I approached this subject in a serious way this morning but the other side is not interested.

The Hon. Member asked Mr. Regan this question: "You are the former Premier of this province. You were a leading Minister from Nova Scotia. Did you examine the implications of this agreement for regional development programs as they would affect this province?" Mr. Regan's answer was: "No, I have not done this".

December 18, 1987

Free Trade

How can anyone give any credibility to a statement made before a committee of this House by someone who has not even examined the implications on regional development in a province which has benefited for a long time from the use of those programs?

Mr. Regan did exactly what I was talking about at the beginning of my remarks. He was debating this issue as if we were talking about theoretical free trade and what he learned in Nova Scotia schools when he was a kid.

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John Napier Turner (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. Turner (Vancouver Quadra):

Joseph Howe.

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William Warren Allmand

Liberal

Mr. Allmand:

He was discussing free trade in pure theory. He was not discussing this agreement. He admitted himself that he had not even examined the implications for regional development for Nova Scotia. So much for Mr. Regan.

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Marcel Danis (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

We shall continue the debate with the Right Hon. Prime Minister (Mr. Mulroney).

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Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, may I begin simply by saying to my friend, the Hon. Member for Notre-Dame-de-Grace-Lachine East (Mr. Allmand) that Gerry Regan has been accused of being a lot of things but a political theorist is not one of them. He has been known as a very successful, down-to-earth Premier of Nova Scotia, and an extremely successful Minister for International Trade in the Liberal Government who represented Canada with great distinction. When he says that the free trade agreement is good, presents a golden opportunity for Nova Scotia and Atlantic Canada, 1 can tell you that I will accept his view before I will accept that of the Hon. Member for Notre-Dame-de-Grace-Lachine East.

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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

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William Warren Allmand

Liberal

Mr. Allmand:

What about your old buddy Eric Kierans?

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Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mulroney:

My hon. friend invokes Eric Kierans. He is also a very distinguished Canadian. That is why I was surprised at the bitter reaction in the Liberal Party against Mr. Kierans when I invoked his statement in support of Meech Lake. Members of the Liberal Party said Eric Kierans does not count. He is a nobody. I said Eric Kierans is a very distinguished Canadian. When he spoke out in support of Meech Lake-I did not say the Hon. Member for Notre-Dame-de-Grace-Lachine East, I said members of the Liberal Party.

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John Napier Turner (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. Turner (Vancouver Quadra):

We came down here to listen to you, Brian.

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Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mulroney:

The Right Hon. Leader of the Opposition (Mr. Turner) says he would like to listen to me. I thank him for that courtesy. If he wants to get home for the weekend, I will be brief.

Some four years ago, Mr. Speaker, in my main address to this House, I had the occasion to refer to Canada and Canadians as a land of promise and people of hope. Today I want to speak about our country and our people in exactly those same terms. I want to speak about promise for Canada. I want to speak about hope for Canadians. I want to speak about the Canada-U.S. trade agreement, the promise it holds for our economy, the difficulties and challenges it can present, and the hope it holds for all Canadians, particularly for the youth of Canada.

Because, Mr. Speaker, it is the future of our youth which is at stake here today. The free trade agreement we have reached with the United States is a gateway to that future. Thanks to this agreement, our products and services will have free access to the biggest market in the world. This will mean thousands of new jobs and a future for our youth. And whether we are speaking of young Canadians in Quebec, Alberta or British Columbia, their message to us is clear: Give us this marvelous opportunity, create jobs, and we, young Canadians, shall build a stronger and a more united Canada.

I support the main resolution and my colleagues support the agreement, as finalized last week and tabled in this House on Friday, for reasons we have set forward and are happy to discuss again. I congratulate in a special way the Minister for International Trade (Miss Carney) and our negotiating team for a job very well done. It has not been easy for any Government or any group of Ministers to undertake a complex international negotiation. There were moments of great difficulty, moments of concern, but the Minister and her colleagues held firm. They represented the Canadian national interest with great conviction and great skill, and on behalf of all Members of the House, irrespective of political Party, I congratulate the Minister for International Trade, Ambassador Reisman, and their group for a job well done on behalf of Canada.

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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

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Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mulroney:

and unalterably. We know now, Canadians now know, what the Liberals and the NDP are against. Canadians have yet to find out what the Liberals and the NDP are for.

I think in the fullness of time, notwithstanding understandable partisan comments from time to time, the country hopes for and will achieve a rational debate. I think Canadians expect that of us and we owe them nothing less.

1 believe this agreement presents Canadians with new opportunities for prosperity and new challenges to make our economy more competitive. The free trade agreement does not mean that we can sit back and watch the world come to us, because it is not going to happen. We are not going to sell our products because of the colour of our eyes or the cut of our jibs. We are going to sell them because they are high quality and internationally competitive. That has been the strength of Canada in the past and that is what is going to happen to us in the future.

We have to go out and aggressively seek and conquer new markets. This is a call to collective excellence. We are saying to Canadians let us dare to be the best. There is no doubt in my mind about the answer of Canadians. Our people do not shrink from challenges. This very country was built by pioneers right out of the wilderness. They rolled back frontiers decade after decade. We are now confronted with a similar challenge and we are going to roll back the frontier of technological innovation and excellence into the 21st century where Canadians will be major players, not only in the growth of their country but in the growth of the trading world.

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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

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December 18, 1987