December 9, 1987

LIB

Don Boudria

Liberal

Mr. Don Boudria (Glengarry-Prescott-Russell):

Mr. Speaker, my supplementary question is for the Prime Minister and it concerns the Canada Lands Company at Mirabel. During the last few days we have learned of no less than two RCMP investigations and an internal audit by the Department of Public Works. We now know of a fired board of directors of the Canada Lands Company and the possibility of 50 additional land flips.

Just what does it take to make the Government move on the issue of the Canada Lands Company at Mirabel? Why will the Prime Minister not learn anything from the Parker Commission of Inquiry and learn that it is time that he started to clean up his act?

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Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT POSITION
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PC

Michel Côté (Minister of Supply and Services)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Michel Cote (Minister of Supply and Services):

Mr. Speaker, again, I believe the Minister already answered the question yesterday, and perhaps I may continue along those lines. Initially, the land redistribution decision was made and implemented by this Government, and as I said before, all the steps taken by the Government were aimed at ensuring these activities were justified and would be followed up. I repeat that in his report, the Auditor General commented on the excellent performance of this Government, and we are convinced, as I said before, that the Department and the Government have done everything to ensure the situation was dealt with satisfactorily.

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DISARMAMENT

NDP

Pauline Jewett

New Democratic Party

Ms. Pauline Jewett (New Westminster-Coquitlam):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Prime Minister. I would like to preface it by saying how very pleased all Canadians are that a very historic treaty was reached in Washington yesterday between Secretary Gorbachev and President Reagan.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   DISARMAMENT
Sub-subtopic:   U.S.A.-U.S.S.R. AGREEMENT-COMMUNICATIONS WITH AMERICAN AND RUSSIAN LEADERS
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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   DISARMAMENT
Sub-subtopic:   U.S.A.-U.S.S.R. AGREEMENT-COMMUNICATIONS WITH AMERICAN AND RUSSIAN LEADERS
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NDP

Pauline Jewett

New Democratic Party

Ms. Jewett:

In view of the fact that there is some concern, however, that the elimination of intermediate range nuclear missiles may in fact lead to an increase in nuclear missiles that are submarine-based or air-launched, and the recognition by President Reagan that this indeed could happen on both sides, could the Prime Minister tell the House whether, in the period of time leading up to the INF negotiations, he communicated with both Secretary Gorbachev and President Reagan on the matter of the desirability of reducing submarine-launched and air-launched Cruise missiles and, if he did communicate, what was their reply?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   DISARMAMENT
Sub-subtopic:   U.S.A.-U.S.S.R. AGREEMENT-COMMUNICATIONS WITH AMERICAN AND RUSSIAN LEADERS
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PC

Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I join with my hon. friend in conveying our congratulations to both sides on achieving an historic agreement on the reduction of nuclear arms, and in a special way I know my hon. friend would want me, on behalf of the Government, to convey congratulations to President Reagan and to all members of NATO whose solidarity brought about in large measure such an accomplishment.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   DISARMAMENT
Sub-subtopic:   U.S.A.-U.S.S.R. AGREEMENT-COMMUNICATIONS WITH AMERICAN AND RUSSIAN LEADERS
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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   DISARMAMENT
Sub-subtopic:   U.S.A.-U.S.S.R. AGREEMENT-COMMUNICATIONS WITH AMERICAN AND RUSSIAN LEADERS
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Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mulroney:

I think the fact that this kind of very important achievement, which escaped the leadership of both sides in the past, was brought about in large measure by the great solidarity of NATO and statesmanship on both sides should be underlined here in the House.

With regard to the communications, indeed I had the privilege of communicating with the General Secretary and the President in respect of the matters raised by my hon. friend prior to the signature some days ago.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   DISARMAMENT
Sub-subtopic:   U.S.A.-U.S.S.R. AGREEMENT-COMMUNICATIONS WITH AMERICAN AND RUSSIAN LEADERS
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AIR AND SUBMARINE-LAUNCHED MISSILES

NDP

Pauline Jewett

New Democratic Party

Ms. Pauline Jewett (New Westminster-Coquitlam):

Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister has not made clear whether he asked both of them to address the issue of massive reductions in strategic offensive weapons.

Did he ask both or did he tell both of them of Canada's particular concern about air-launched Cruise missiles and submarine-launched Cruise and ballistic missiles? Did he specifically ask? Finally, did he also press upon both the need now for a comprehensive test ban before there is further enlargement or enhancement of the nuclear arms race?

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Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   AIR AND SUBMARINE-LAUNCHED MISSILES
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Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, given the question of my hon. friend, I thought the answer was very clear. I regret that my hon. friend did not agree.

In the communications we have had on this very important subject, we have conveyed the views of the Government of Canada in regard to the steps which we believe ought to be taken to secure further reductions in the possible deployment of nuclear arms.

The Secretary of State for External Affairs set out very carefully the manner in which Canada has recommended that the alliance and that General Secretary Gorbachev pursue this. My recommendations and views expressed to both sides have been consistent with that policy as set out clearly by the Secretary of State for External Affairs.

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Subtopic:   AIR AND SUBMARINE-LAUNCHED MISSILES
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NATIONAL DEFENCE

PC

Guy St-Julien

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Guy St-Julien (Abitibi):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Associate Minister of National Defence.

The economic development of Senneterre in Abitibi is dependent on three major components: forestry, rail transport, and the Canadian Armed Forces Base.

Since it was announced in 1985 that the radar base would be dismantled in August 1988, the Senneterre economic recovery committee and I have been making concerted efforts to find a solution.

My question is this: Can the Minister confirm today that a private Montreal firm has made a study to estimate the cost of dismantling the base? If so, could the expenditures involved be transferred to the municipality by the municipal council of Senneterre which wants to keep the base because of the socioeconomic impact the dismantling would have on local residents who have no other facilities and would make use of those already on the base, including the swimming pool, the curling rink and the community centre?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION ON DEMOLITION OF SENNETERRE RADAR BASE IN ABITIB1
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PC

Paul Wyatt Dick (Associate Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Paul Dick (Associate Minister of National Defence):

Mr. Speaker, there has been a study conducted by a Montreal firm. We have an estimate on how much it would cost to demolish the base. We would have to be released by the Province of Quebec if we were not to undertake demolition, and have that assigned to another party in case they did not maintain the facility as it is.

Oral Questions

We are willing to look at any proposal put forward by any of the municipalities in the areas where the 17 bases that are being closed are concerned.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION ON DEMOLITION OF SENNETERRE RADAR BASE IN ABITIB1
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ELECTRICITY SALES TO UNITED STATES-PURCHASES BY SPECIFIED PROVINCES

LIB

Russell Gregoire MacLellan

Liberal

Mr. Russell MacLellan (Cape Breton-The Sydneys):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Right Hon. Prime Minister.

The Minister of Energy wants to deregulate electricity sales to the United States. If the provinces dependent upon this electricity do not have the option to purchase at least a portion of this electricity at a reasonable price, they will be placed in a very devastating position, for example, a province such as Prince Edward Island which already has the highest electricity prices in Canada.

Why is the Government deregulating electricity sales to the United States, and thereby placing provinces such as Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, and Newfoundland, in the difficult position of not knowing if they will be able to get electricity at a reasonable price, or even if they are going to be able to get electricity at all?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   ELECTRICITY SALES TO UNITED STATES-PURCHASES BY SPECIFIED PROVINCES
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PC

Martin Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. Brian Mulroney (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, why would the Member make such a preposterous suggestion when, in point of fact, at the First Ministers' Conference 10 days ago, Premier Bourassa announced that he had just concluded an arrangement to supply hydro-electricity to the Province of New Brunswick at very favourable terms? In other circumstances he has indicated that this would be the policy of his Government, and the policy of Governments across the country.

At that same First Ministers' Conference, and here in the House of Commons, I indicated the willingness of the Government of Canada to work with the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador, and the Government of the Province of Quebec, in respect of Churchill Falls and related developments, precisely to ensure further availability of electricity that could be made available in these circumstances to the benefit of Canadian provinces.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   ELECTRICITY SALES TO UNITED STATES-PURCHASES BY SPECIFIED PROVINCES
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GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY

LIB

Russell Gregoire MacLellan

Liberal

Mr. Russell MacLellan (Cape Breton-The Sydneys):

Mr. Speaker, I would ask the Right Hon. Prime Minister to study this question a little more. He will realize that, for one thing, the sale to New Brunswick is only for six years.

The Minister of Energy states that he will not duplicate any regulations placed by the provinces, even if those provinces

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Privilege

pass regulations which conflict with what the federal Government is doing at the present time. This will negate the federal Government's responsibility.

Why is the federal Government once again abandoning its responsibility in this country, and giving these powers to the provinces?

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Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY
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December 9, 1987