December 7, 1987

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT


The Hon. Pierre H. Cadieux (for the Minister of Supply and Services) moved that Bill C-91, An Act to amend the Corporations and Labour Unions Returns Act, be read the second time and referred to a legislative committee.


PC

Andrée Champagne (Assistant Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Progressive Conservative

The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Champagne):

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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Some Hon. Members:

Agreed.

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Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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PC

Andrée Champagne (Assistant Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Progressive Conservative

The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Champagne):

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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NDP

Stanley J. Hovdebo

New Democratic Party

Mr. Hovdebo:

I cannot hear you.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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PC

Andrée Champagne (Assistant Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Progressive Conservative

The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Champagne):

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? Order. I apologize, I cannot speak any louder than I am right now. Has the House heard the motion? The Hon. Member for Windsor-Walkerville (Mr. McCurdy).

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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NDP

Howard Douglas McCurdy

New Democratic Party

Mr. Howard McCurdy (Windsor-Walkerville):

Madam Speaker, it is a pleasure to rise to speak on Bill C-91, an Act to amend the Corporations and Labour Unions Returns Act.

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Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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PC

Andrée Champagne (Assistant Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Progressive Conservative

The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Champagne):

Order, please. 1 now realize that the Hon. Parliamentary Secretary meant to speak on behalf of the Government on this Bill. If the House would allow, I will give the floor to the Parliamentary Secretary. However, the hon. gentleman did not rise. I did ask the question three times and, if I heard him correctly, he even said "yes" to the question instead of rising and advising me that he wanted to speak. Do I have unanimous consent to give the floor to the Hon. Parliamentary Secretary?

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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Jean-Robert Gauthier (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Liberal Party)

Liberal

Mr. Gauthier:

Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I would like to say a few words about the situation in which we

find ourselves. It is indeed not your fault, Madam Speaker, that we are confused. Some of us thought that we would continue with the Bill which we were studying before Question Period, that is, Bill C-54. Others knew that we were going to proceed to Bill C-91. That created some confusion.

As you know, Madam Speaker, we have a speaker who wants to speak to Bill C-91. I take it that the Government will explain the Bill to us and to Canadians. We can then proceed with the normal routine.

We will comply with your wishes and cede to the Parliamentary Secretary.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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NDP

John R. Rodriguez (Deputy Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Rodriguez:

Madam Speaker, I rise on the same point of order. You called Bill C-91. The Hon. Member for Windsor-[DOT] Walkerville (Mr. McCurdy) stood up. He was recognized and he started his speech. We are not going to start playing these games and reverting. If you wanted to speak, you should have been up.

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Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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PC

Lorne Everett Greenaway (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of State (Forestry and Mines))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Greenaway:

I was up.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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NDP

John R. Rodriguez (Deputy Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Rodriguez:

They should have their act together. They should have been informed that there was a switch from Bill C-54 to Bill C-91. They obviously do not have their act together over there-

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Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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PC

Lorne Everett Greenaway (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of State (Forestry and Mines))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Greenaway:

Speak for yourself.

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Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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NDP

John R. Rodriguez (Deputy Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Rodriguez:

The Member has been recognized and I believe he should continue with his speech.

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Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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Lorne Everett Greenaway (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of State (Forestry and Mines))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Greenaway:

Same point of order.

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Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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NDP

John R. Rodriguez (Deputy Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Rodriguez:

Go back to sleep.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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Frederick James (Jim) Hawkes (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Privy Council)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hawkes:

Madam Speaker, I rise on the same point of order. I think informal discussions were held earlier this day with all three Parties, about the rhythm of business for the day. The Member for Ottawa-Vanier (Mr. Gauthier) is correct in saying that some people understood that and perhaps some others were not fully informed. It was the intention of the Government to move to Bill C-91 as the second order of business today, followed by Bill C-54, however, upon the request of the Opposition, concurred in by the Government, we agreed to move to Bill C-91 after Question Period and then return to Bill C-54 if time permitted.

As you were reading the motion there were many people in the House shouting "agreed". I know that the Member for Cariboo-Chilcotin (Mr. Greenaway) stood on at least three occasions, but it was not clear as to when the debate was going to begin and perhaps at the critical moment he was not on his feet because he had been up and down several times.

However, I think in the spirit in which we agreed to change the order of business for today it would be helpful if Members of the New Democratic Party were to give unanimous consent to hear the explanation of the Bill, to be followed by the Hon.

Corporations and Labour Unions

Member you had previously recognized. That would certainly be in keeping with the spirit which was established earlier this day, and the spirit with which the Government entered into rearrangement of the business. Failure to do that would send a different signal to the House and perhaps to the Government as well.

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Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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Lorne Everett Greenaway (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of State (Forestry and Mines))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Greenaway:

Madam Speaker, I just want to make it clear that I was standing in my place on at least three occasions. If you people cannot see that, that is your tough luck. Get some glasses.

Topic:   GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Subtopic:   CORPORATIONS AND LABOUR UNIONS RETURNS ACT
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURE TO AMEND
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December 7, 1987