September 21, 1987

LIB

Robert Phillip Kaplan

Liberal

Hon. Bob Kaplan (York Centre):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Solicitor General.

We all know that the RCMP and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service have deliberately been given overlapping mandates. It is the responsibility of the Minister to see that jurisdictional issues that arise between them are settled.

The other day the Minister told us that he had set up a liaison committee between the two services to end what he called "the state of confrontation" that existed during the time of his predecessor, the present Minister of National Defence.

Will the Minister tell the House if that committee has done any effective work? Have any issues been resolved between the two services? If so, what issues have been resolved? It is obvious that national security is threatened by the confrontation that continues to exist between the agencies.

September 21, 1987

Oral Questions

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
Sub-subtopic:   LIAISON WITH ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
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PC

James Francis Kelleher (Solicitor General of Canada)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. James Kelleher (Solicitor General of Canada):

Mr. Speaker, let me say at the outset that never at any time did I accuse my predecessor, nor would I, of not having carried out his duties in a proper and efficient manner. Indeed, he did discharge his duties properly and efficiently.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
Sub-subtopic:   LIAISON WITH ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
Sub-subtopic:   LIAISON WITH ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
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NDP

Derek Nigel Ernest Blackburn

New Democratic Party

Mr. Blackburn (Brant):

That's because he is not a lawyer.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
Sub-subtopic:   LIAISON WITH ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
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PC

James Francis Kelleher (Solicitor General of Canada)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Kelleher:

Shortly after assuming office in July, 1986, I immediately had meetings with the then head of the RCMP and CSIS. I sat down and discussed liaison problems with them and the exchange of information.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
Sub-subtopic:   LIAISON WITH ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
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An Hon. Member:

They weren't listening, Jim.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
Sub-subtopic:   LIAISON WITH ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
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PC

James Francis Kelleher (Solicitor General of Canada)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Kelleher:

On August 14, by written direction, I set up liaison committees and liaison officers, which has gone a great length to eliminate and minimize problems between the two services.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
Sub-subtopic:   LIAISON WITH ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
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GOVERNMENT POSITION

LIB

Robert Phillip Kaplan

Liberal

Hon. Bob Kaplan (York Centre):

How does the Minister then explain the problems in the service which continue to result from a lack of clarity on the part of the Government about what product it expects the Canadian Security Intelligence Service to deliver, and what assistance is it to receive from the RCMP in doing its job?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT POSITION
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PC

Henry Perrin Beatty (Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Beatty:

1 guess it must be a problem left to us by you.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT POSITION
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LIB
LIB

Carlo Rossi (Deputy Whip of the Liberal Party)

Liberal

Mr. Rossi:

You stand up and answer. You know all about it.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT POSITION
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PC

James Francis Kelleher (Solicitor General of Canada)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. James Kelleher (Solicitor General of Canada):

Mr. Speaker, 1 can only repeat that in my opinion both services are carrying out their duties properly, efficiently, and are working together.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT POSITION
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NDP

Derek Nigel Ernest Blackburn

New Democratic Party

Mr. Blackburn (Brant):

Efficiently! Wait a minute.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT POSITION
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PC

James Francis Kelleher (Solicitor General of Canada)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Kelleher:

If the Hon. Member has specific instances of non co-operation and non-liaison, then I would appreciate receiving them. I will attend to solving them immediately.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT POSITION
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FISHERIES

NDP

John R. Rodriguez (Deputy Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. John R. Rodriguez (Nickel Belt):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   CANADA-FRANCE DISPUTE-NORTHERN COD STOCK
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NDP

Derek Nigel Ernest Blackburn

New Democratic Party

Mr. Blackburn (Brant):

Good luck!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   CANADA-FRANCE DISPUTE-NORTHERN COD STOCK
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NDP

John R. Rodriguez (Deputy Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Rodriguez:

1 am fishing.

I wish to quote some comments which were made in an emergency debate in this House on January 28 by the Minister responsible for Newfoundland in this Government's Cabinet:

It is our fishing industry, it is our life in Newfoundland the same as the

wheat fields are the life of Saskatchewan, or oil and gas might be the life of

Alberta. That is why the Government of Newfoundland and the industry and

union representatives should never have been left out of this last week.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   CANADA-FRANCE DISPUTE-NORTHERN COD STOCK
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PC

George Harris Hees (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Minister of State (Seniors))

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hees:

Louder, John, louder.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   CANADA-FRANCE DISPUTE-NORTHERN COD STOCK
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September 21, 1987