May 1, 1985

STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21

PROVINCIAL AFFAIRS

LIB

Jean-Robert Gauthier (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Liberal Party)

Liberal

Mr. Jean-Robert Gauthier (Ottawa-Vanier):

Mr. Speaker, the voters of Ontario are shocked to learn that the Premier of their province is using intimidation and threats to win support in tomorrow's provincial election. He told the residents of Simcoe that only by electing Progressive Conservatives would they be assured of getting fair treatment from the Tory Government, if it is to be re-elected, and God forbid it should.

The Premier said that the area which elected two Liberal Members in the last election would continue to be neglected unless it was painted blue. This is inexcusable behaviour for a man who calls himself Premier. It is blatant discrimination and shows the desperate attempts of a candidate who, in the final days of a campaign, has gone from promising to bullying. It brings to mind the behaviour of the Prime Minister (Mr. Mulroney) when he warned that there would be jobs for Liberals only after there was not a single, living, breathing Tory left in the land.

Canadians are in fact protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms against such threats and overt discrimination as we have seen practised not only by the Prime Minister but by the Premier of Ontario. In light of all this, I think the Minister of Justice (Mr. Crosbie) should review these extraordinary threats, and advise Parliament how the constitutional rights which have been given to Canadians, and which the Minister is sworn to uphold, can be fully protected against such threats.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   PROVINCIAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   ONTARIO ELECTION CAMPAIGN
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CANADA MORTGAGE AND HOUSING CORPORATION

NDP

Daniel James Macdonnell Heap

New Democratic Party

Mr. Dan Heap (Spadina):

Mr. Speaker, the Government of Canada owes some home owners in Malvern, Scarborough, the price of their homes which they were sold under false pretences. In 1972 CMHC sold land in Malvern, Scarborough, to the Ontario Housing Corporation, land which it knew was seriously contaminated by radioactive waste. CMHC knew

that Ontario Housing Corporation would sell the land for housing purposes, and it did so under a program with the cynical name of "Home Ownership Made Easy".

Unsuspecting families bought these houses and only later learned that they were the owners of a radioactive waste dump. Their children play on contaminated soil, and noxious fumes leak into their basements. Home prices have dropped disastrously. These home owners appealed to their Member of Parliament, the Hon. Member for York-Scarborough (Mr. McCrossan), last fall, but it seems that he has done nothing about this mess.

The previous federal Government cheated these home owners, with or without the connivance of the Conservative Government of Ontario, by concealing the fact that the land was poisoned before it was purchased. I call on the Minister of Labour (Mr. McKnight), who is responsible for housing, to buy out those homes at a fair market price.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   CANADA MORTGAGE AND HOUSING CORPORATION
Sub-subtopic:   SALE OF MALVERN LAND CONTAMINATED BY RADIOACTIVE WASTE
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REVENUE CANADA

PC

Jean-Guy Guilbault

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Jean-Guy Guilbault (Drummond):

Mr. Speaker, I would like to draw the attention of the House to a situation that has existed for a number of years, and which I find deplorable. I am referring to the tax discounters. The number of Canadians who avail themselves of the services of these discounters has almost doubled in two years. In 1983, 118,000 people used the services of these companies, while in 1984, their number rose to 274,000.

The customers of these discounters are poor people, mothers of single-parent families and welfare recipients. In fact, 64.5 per cent of these customers who must give part of their tax refund to the discounter have a gross income of less than $8,000 per year. We can safely say that the victims of this system are among the neediest in our society.

Furthermore, the 15 per cent interest that may be charged by tax discounters works out to an exhorbitant rate when calculated on an annual basis. In fact, it means that on an annual basis, these organizations may charge up to 90 per cent interest. This should not be tolerated, since Section 305 of the Criminal Code protects Canadians by prohibiting interest rates over 60 per cent, and even that is excessive.

According to the Association cooperative d'economie fami-liale du Quebec, people go to these companies because they

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cannot wait until they get the money through the usual channels.

Mr. Speaker, I agree with the two solutions proposed by this association, which are to abolish this type of service and to repeal the legislation that allows the existence-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   REVENUE CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX DISCOUNTERS
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PC

Martial Asselin (Speaker pro tempore)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

1 am sorry to inform the Hon. Member that his time has expired.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   REVENUE CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX DISCOUNTERS
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AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY

PC

Elliott William Hardey

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Elliott Hardey (Kent):

Mr. Speaker, the question of Japanese automobile import quotas is far from simple, particularly in the auto parts industry. This problem cannot be solved by a simple percentage formula of letting in just so many Japanese cars each year.

As we all know today, what looks like an American, German, Swedish, French, or Japanese car may contain a variety of parts made in a half a dozen countries. Appearance and name-plate may mean nothing at all so far as origin is concerned. Components for a Renault may be made in Mexico; General Motors products are now manufactured in South America and Japan; Volkswagen is manufacturing parts in Japan as well as Pennsylvania; and Australian Mazda is marketed under the Ford label. This is just a sample of what has become universal practice in the auto industry today.

Because of this, it is somewhat futile to be over-concerned with Japanese auto imports per se. What is really needed is protection for Canadian auto parts manufacturers with a firm policy such as that recommended in the 1983 report of the auto industry task force. Quite simply, exporters of foreign cars to Canada must either buy all of their parts and repair parts in Canada, or they must invest in the assembly of vehicles in Canada. In other words, reduced to the simplest formula, there should be no sale of foreign cars here that do not make available Canadian-made parts. For our own best interests, this is the only possible solution.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   PROTECTION URGED FOR PARTS MANUFACTURERS
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HOUSING

LIB

Jean-Claude Malépart

Liberal

Mr. Jean-Claude Malepart (Montreal-Sainte-Marie):

Mr. Speaker, I would like to speak on behalf of the mayors of Quebec's regional and rural municipalities, who like all... Mr. Speaker, there are some people here who are barking, and I wonder if you could ask them to go and bark outside.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   HOUSING
Sub-subtopic:   BUDGETARY CUT-BACKS
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An Hon. Member:

They are not barking, they are caterwauling.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   HOUSING
Sub-subtopic:   BUDGETARY CUT-BACKS
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LIB

Jean-Claude Malépart

Liberal

Mr. Malepart:

Mr. Speaker, I would like to speak on behalf of the mayors of municipalities who are unhappy about the Government's decision to make cuts in the Residential Rehabilitation Assistance Program. The Regional Municipality of Arthabaska is complaining about the Government's cutbacks in the RRAP program-its budget for $412,000 has been reduced to $183,000. The Mayor of Becancour is facing a reduction of 69 per cent. In the Municipality of Bellechasse, they had $540,000, now reduced by $240,000. In Noranda, cutbacks from $140,000 to $81,000, and in the City of Sherbrooke, a reduction of $225,000 on the original $724,000 requested; in Rimouski, a budget of $6.5 million has been cut back by $3.4 million.

Mr. Speaker, I would ask all Members of this House, especially the Members from Quebec and from the regions concerned, to ask the Minister for additional funding to remedy the injustice caused by the new formula introduced by the Minister, which is making Quebec lose $17 million from the Residential Rehabilitation Assistance Program, a program that is very important to improve the quality of our housing-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   HOUSING
Sub-subtopic:   BUDGETARY CUT-BACKS
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PC

Martial Asselin (Speaker pro tempore)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

The Hon. Member's time has expired.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   HOUSING
Sub-subtopic:   BUDGETARY CUT-BACKS
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POLITICAL PARTIES

NDP

William Alexander (Bill) Blaikie

New Democratic Party

Mr. Bill Blaikie (Winnipeg-Birds Hill):

Mr. Speaker, I would hope all Members of the House would join me in lamenting the tragic passing of the Rhinoceros Party of Canada from Canadian politics.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   POLITICAL PARTIES
Sub-subtopic:   RHINOCEROS PARTY. R I P.
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Some Hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   POLITICAL PARTIES
Sub-subtopic:   RHINOCEROS PARTY. R I P.
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NDP

William Alexander (Bill) Blaikie

New Democratic Party

Mr. Blaikie:

This incarnation of cynicism about politics and politicians, a cynicism so often justified by past and present political events, provided our elections with a source of humour that many appreciated, with the exception, in my experience, of Marxist-Leninists and Tories, who share the same psychic inability to laugh at themselves.

Perhaps the greatest legacy of the Rhinocerous Party will be its very useful suggestions on reform of the Senate. By turning the Senate into a general lottery, available to all Canadians and not just to Liberal and Conservative political hacks, the Rhinocerous Party showed a true commitment to the democratization of the Senate, albeit in an unusual way, and a true understanding of just how farcical is the current situation.

I am sure the late Leader of the Rhinocerous Party, Dr. Ferron, would understand if we all agreed to appoint him to the Senate posthumously, on the easily met condition that his activity therein not exceed that of the average Senator.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   POLITICAL PARTIES
Sub-subtopic:   RHINOCEROS PARTY. R I P.
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Some Hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

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Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   POLITICAL PARTIES
Sub-subtopic:   RHINOCEROS PARTY. R I P.
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