December 5, 1984

STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21

ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS

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Hon. Chas. L. Caccia@Davenport

Mr. Speaker, by the thousands, Canadians have expressed their shock and dismay about the proposed cuts in environmental and wildlife research activities. Highly trained biologists, zoologists, and specialists in a variety of disciplines, are about to lose their jobs. Their only prospects seem to be south of the border because provincial Governments are not prepared to absorb them, nor is the private sector.

A better understanding of the role of wildlife in the ecosystem is an essential and never ending process. The Minister of the Environment (Mrs. Blais-Grenier) must understand that wildlife research and activities mean more than human health. In addition, the announced cuts have dealt a heavy blow to the morale of people within her Department. She must fight for the preservation of the Canadian Wildlife Service at its present strength before the announcement of cuts.

Today, in a letter by author Farley Mowat and the President of the Public Service of Canada, Jack Donegani, to the Prime Minister (Mr. Mulroney), they urge him to reconsider the cuts in the Canadian Wildlife Service. We on this side of the House again urge the Minister of the Environment to fight for the Canadian Wildlife Service, reject the cuts, and restore confidence in her Department, by her employees-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN WILDLIFE SERVICE
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PC

Martial Asselin (Speaker pro tempore)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I must inform the Hon. Member that his time has expired.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN WILDLIFE SERVICE
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THE ECONOMY

NDP

Iain Francis Angus

New Democratic Party

Mr. Iain Angus (Thunder Bay-Atikokan):

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Finance (Mr. Wilson) has made it quite clear that the rationale behind all the cut-backs and tax increases in his economic statement is to increase investor confidence in Canada.

The Canadian investment community has now had ample opportunity to witness the new Government in operation and to assess its supposedly new approach to our economic problems. Has it responded like the Government suggested they would? Has it suddenly found renewed faith in the Canadian economy and begun to invest, and produce the tens upon tens of thousands of jobs that we were promised would be created overnight? The answer is clear, and it is no.

Just last week, for example, Great Lakes Forest Products Limited of Thunder Bay announced that it will be investing $25 million to build a newsprint mill in the United States because it has more confidence in the American economy than in Canada's. Today's Globe and Mail indicated that production and employment by Canadian manufacturers have taken a sharp drop. A spokesman is quoted as saying: "There sure seems to be a lack of confidence".

The Government's approach is not working because it is based on faulty assumptions. Just wanting increased investor confidence is not enough. We need concrete actions to put Canadians back to work. It is obvious that Canadian investors, as well as the Canadian public, do not have faith in the Conservative Government's approach. They do not believe, as I do not believe, that the Conservatives have any answers. Not only is the Government's honeymoon just about over, but it appears that most Canadians are ready to sue for divorce.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE ECONOMY
Sub-subtopic:   INVESTOR CONFIDENCE
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HUMAN RIGHTS

PC

Gilles Bernier

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gilles Bernier (Beauce):

Mr. Speaker, I want to take this opportunity to express the satisfaction of my constituents in the riding of Beauce and that of all Canadians with respect to the positive attitude taken by the Canadian Government in providing aid to Ethiopia.

Our Government's initiative was instrumental in persuading other countries, agencies and thousands of Canadians to make a generous contribution.

Mr. Speaker, everyone understands that we should help people who are starving and many of whom are actually dying of starvation. However, I think our own attitude in this country is entirely ambiguous, in that we are not prepared to protect the right to life of defenceless creatures. This is a shameful injustice, Mr. Speaker.

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We do not want to let old people, men, women and children die in Ethiopia, and our actions are laudable. But why do we let our own children be killed, in a civilized country?

We are willing to protect and to help people in need, but why do we let our own children be killed by abortionists who operate freely without any scruples?

Finally, Mr. Speaker, as a Member of this House, 1 still fail to understand how we can make such admirable efforts to feed the hungry of the world and at the same time let others kill those who have a right to be born.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   HUMAN RIGHTS
Sub-subtopic:   RIGHT TO LIFE FOR ALL
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BANK OF CANADA

PC

John Alexander Frances MacDougall

Progressive Conservative

Mr. John A. MacDougall (Timiskaming):

Mr. Speaker, at the time when the Government is attempting to lead the way in curbing excessive government spending as a result of the economic mess this Party inherited from the Liberals, 1 want to point out a situation I discovered within the Bank of Canada.

Currently the Ottawa office of the Bank of Canada operates a cafeteria which offers employees heavily subsidized meals. For example, from yesterday's menu patrons could order beef short ribs for 80 cents, or tuna casserole for 65 cents. Milk sells for 20 cents. A side order of vegetables or rice is 15 cents, and soft drinks are 10 cents. I support your move, Mr. Speaker, to raise prices in our restaurants and cafeterias on the Hill, and I strongly urge the Governor of the Bank of Canada to do the same. The Bank of Canada should be setting an example, not breaking the bank at the taxpayers' expense.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   BANK OF CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   CAFETERIA MEAL PRICES
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ATOMIC ENERGY OF CANADA LIMITED

LIB

Leonard Donald Hopkins

Liberal

Mr. Len Hopkins (Renfrew-Nipissing-Pembroke):

Mr. Speaker, it has been brought to my attention that Atomic Energy of Canada Limited is putting on an elaborate display today relating to all of its major activities on the pure science side, in the applied science areas, as well as information relating to the Candu reactor and, even more important, to the little known and numerous achievements that nuclear research has attained in the field of medical science. This display and public relations effort will take place at Atomic Energy of Canada Headquarters here in Ottawa, and only the Progressive Conservative Members of the House of Commons have been invited to participate.

I cannot emphasize enough the importance that the Conservative Members of the House of Commons should give to this very vital and key project in the field of the pure and applied sciences. I would impress upon each and every one of them that they should take the opportunity to attend and get

the real side of the story about this great achievement in the scientific history of Canada. I have been given to understand that a similar, future display will be presented for the Liberal caucus Members and one for the NDP caucus Members.

Some Canadians do not place enough emphasis on the outstanding, positive achievements of the many brilliant and dedicated expert personnel that we have in our country. The time is long overdue when the positive side of nuclear research must be accurately, spontaneously, and credibly placed on the record for all to see, not only in our own country where we sometimes give our own people the least credit for achievement, but also-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   ATOMIC ENERGY OF CANADA LIMITED
Sub-subtopic:   SCIENCE EXHIBITION
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PC

Martial Asselin (Speaker pro tempore)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I would like to advise the Hon. Member that his time has expired.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   ATOMIC ENERGY OF CANADA LIMITED
Sub-subtopic:   SCIENCE EXHIBITION
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ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS

NDP

William Alexander (Bill) Blaikie

New Democratic Party

Mr. Bill Blaikie (Winnipeg-Birds Hill):

Mr. Speaker, yesterday I appeared before an interdepartmental hearing on auto emission standards to urge them to recommend the implementation of lower, less polluting auto emission standards for this country. Reducing auto emissions to at least the American level would be a step in the right direction, not only in reducing acid rain but also in enabling us to get tough with the Americans with respect to their massive contribution to acid rain. Reducing Canadian automobile emissions would help restore the credibility on this issue that was lost through previous Liberal inaction in this area.

The Government must also act in those areas where it itself has damaged the ability of Canada to advocate with integrity that the Americans be more sensitive to acid rain and other environmental problems; by re-instating the herring gull egg program which monitors toxins in the Great Lakes, and by reversing cuts in wildlife services, some of which affect international agreements and concerns like the future of the porcupine caribou herd in the Yukon.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   SUPPORT FOR REDUCED AUTOMOBILE EMISSIONS
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EMPLOYMENT

PC

Pierre H. Vincent (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National Revenue)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pierre H. Vincent (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of National Revenue and Canada Post):

Mr. Speaker, the Trois-Rivieres riding which I have the honour to represent in the House is one of those that have been affected by the notorious and dismal affair of the Laprade Fund. I use the expression "dismal affair" because the previous government never fulfilled its commitments in this regard. We all know

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that the money earmarked for the Laprade plant project that never materialized was supposed to be spent in the affected ridings to create permanent jobs, mostly in the energy sector.

Mr. Speaker, the previous government, not content with failing to fulfil its promises, made a farce out of the Laprade Fund by distributing right and left, here and there and everywhere in a wanton fashion subsidies which have never created permanent jobs of any sort.

Mr. Speaker, I cannot find words strong enough to describe the stupidity of the previous government in this affair, and my constituents are well aware that the members of that government are now trying to wash their hands of the whole mess as they sit on benches opposite. Yet, Mr. Speaker, I suggest that for my constituents it is better that way.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   EMPLOYMENT
Sub-subtopic:   UTILIZATION OF LAPRADE FUND
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ABORTION

PC

Gordon Edward Taylor

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gordon Taylor (Bow River):

Mr. Speaker, Canadians are law-abiding people and expect our courts and juries to uphold the law of the land. Yet in Toronto a jury acquitted Dr. Morgentaler, who admitted he broke Canada's laws and would continue to do so. A father who breaks the law by stealing bread to feed his hungry children is sent to jail, but in this case we have a jury acquitting a man who denies life to unborn babies. The fact that he has broken the law many times should not now make it right and proper. These juries are saying: "Break the law often and it is okay". If one believes the law is wrong, he has every right to work for a change but, until it is changed, it should be obeyed. Any other philosophy will bring chaos to the country.

Morgentaler's lawyer appears to justify breaking the law by saying: "... the right to control one's body is essential.. . ". Right on, Mr. Lawyer, but that control should happen before the act of intercourse, not by killing the child after he or she is conceived. I congratulate the Government of Ontario for appealing this case, and I hope the appeal court makes it abundantly clear that the laws of Canada must be obeyed by all, including Dr. Morgentaler.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   ABORTION
Sub-subtopic:   APPEAL AGAINST ACQUITTAL
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POLITICAL PARTIES

December 5, 1984