November 30, 1984

STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21

THE ECONOMY

LIB

Raymond Garneau

Liberal

Mr. Raymond Garneau (Laval-des-Rapides):

Mr. Speaker, speaking on behalf of the people of Laval-des-Rapides, I wish to express before the House my indignation about some comments made by the Minister of Finance (Mr. Wilson) before members of the National Editors and Writers Society in Toronto last week. According to reports, the Minister of Finance asked the media to apply restraint in their articles on the Government's intentions to cut back social programs, so as to avoid creating a panic among recipients of family allowance and old age security payments.

Is the Minister now going to ask the media not to publish information on cutbacks in equalization payments so as not to create panic among provinces receiving such payments? If the information media and even parliamentarians no longer have a right to comment on the Government's policies, I wonder what kind of information the public will receive. Not the press but the Progressive Conservative Government decided to make cutbacks in social programs. It is clear that the Government wants to tamper, either directly or indirectly, with the universality of social programs, but it would prefer to keep it a secret.

If the Minister of Finance wants to reassure Canadians and allay the very real fears he raised among those benefiting from social programs, all he has to do is say publicly, and say it now, that universality will be fully maintained and that the Government does not intend to tax all benefits received, and then Canadians will breathe easier. Then there will be no question of creating panic among senior citizens and other beneficiaries of social programs, and the media will be able to do their work unhindered.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE ECONOMY
Sub-subtopic:   PRINCIPLE OF UNIVERSALITY-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE

PC

Douglas Grinslade Lewis (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Treasury Board)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Doug Lewis (Parliamentary Secretary to President of the Treasury Board):

Mr. Speaker, I rise to draw to the attention of the House an unfortunate situation which must be reviewed if the unemployment insurance system is to be considered fair and just to all workers. I refer to reports that the Commission's office in Barrie, Ontario, intends to appeal decisions of the local board referees interpreting the vacation pay, lay-off notices and unemployment insurance provisions in favour of the workers at Black and Decker.

The Liberals put into place a system and a mind set which consistently denied fair interpretations without the realization of a basic fact, that when a plant closes down completely it is not a case of a worker trying to beat the system but a case where the system must start working for the worker.

That same nonsense occurred in Midland, Ontario, when the RCA plant closed in 1982.

I ask the Minister of Employment and Immigration (Miss MacDonald) who, the House knows, dislikes technicalities which persecute the unfortunate, to have her officials investigate this fully before the Government takes any further appeal procedures.

I also ask the Minister, who, I know, is concerned about the shambles in which the Liberals left the system, to consider a complete review of the vacation pay, lay-off notices and unemployment insurance provisions.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Sub-subtopic:   PLEA ON BEHALF OF LAID-OFF WORKERS IN BARRIE, ONT.
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CANADA LABOUR CODE

NDP

Michael Morris Cassidy

New Democratic Party

Mr. Mike Cassidy (Ottawa Centre):

Mr. Speaker, I rise to express concern on behalf of 250,000 employees of the Government of Canada over the Government's decision to delay the proclamation of the health and safety provisions of the Canada Labour Code until March or June of 1986. This decision will have the effect of continuing to deprive these public employees of any legislative health and safety protection. I am particularly concerned because even 1986 is not given as a firm date.

These employees were to have been brought under the Code, according to the amendments. I believe that the delay is a breach of faith by a Government which promised consultation

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and co-operation when it was campaigning to become the Government last summer.

The present situation is a grace and favour relationship in which less than 10 per cent of federal employees, I am told, have an effectively working health and safety committee, because of the refusal of the Government and the Treasury Board, as the employer, to implement a decent system of health and safety.

In regard to its own employees, I suggest the Government should be a model of progress and not a model of looking to the past. The current situation has proven that a voluntary system from the Government is not workable, and when all Parties agreed last June and endorsed Part IV of the Canada Labour Code that would give this protection to federal employees, it is wrong for the Government to delay its proclamation.

I call on the Minister of Labour (Mr. McKnight) and the Government either to proclaim the protection now-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   CANADA LABOUR CODE
Sub-subtopic:   DELAY IN PROCLAIMING HEALTH AND SAFETY REGULATIONS- IMPACT ON PUBLIC SERVANTS
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PC

Martial Asselin (Speaker pro tempore)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I regret to inform the Lion. Member that his time has expired.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   CANADA LABOUR CODE
Sub-subtopic:   DELAY IN PROCLAIMING HEALTH AND SAFETY REGULATIONS- IMPACT ON PUBLIC SERVANTS
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STATUS OF WOMEN

PC

Pauline Browes

Progressive Conservative

Mrs. Pauline Browes (Scarborough Centre):

Mr. Speaker, in 1975 the United Nations officially opened the International Decade for Women by highlighting the problems of women in the Third World. Unfortunately, as the decade draws to a close, many of the problems persist.

An area of particular importance is the role of women in development. If effective and lasting development is to take place in the Third World, women must be integrated into the process. For example, many African agricultural training projects fail, simply because they focus on men, ignoring the fact that women do 70 per cent of the agricultural work. In addition, while two-thirds of the world's 800 million illiterate are women, women are often left out of literacy training programs. This can no longer go on if proper and dynamic development is to take place.

Fortunately, some positive steps have been taken. The OECD has established guidelines that strongly remind member agencies to treat women in development as the major issue. In Canada, CIDA and Match International have also played a significant role in encouraging development initiatives by women.

Progress has been made, but the problems of women in development, and indeed the problems of development as a whole, if not dealt with more effectively, will be with us long after the decade of women is over.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   STATUS OF WOMEN
Sub-subtopic:   ROLE OF WOMEN IN THIRD WORLD DEVELOPMENT
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PC

Martial Asselin (Speaker pro tempore)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I regret to inform the Hon. Member that her time has expired.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   STATUS OF WOMEN
Sub-subtopic:   ROLE OF WOMEN IN THIRD WORLD DEVELOPMENT
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AGRICULTURE

LIB

Maurice Brydon Foster

Liberal

Mr. Maurice Foster (Algoma):

Mr. Speaker, this fall, millions and millions of pounds of subsidized beef have been dumped on the Canadian market by countries in the European Economic Community, such as Denmark and Ireland. Over 45 million pounds of beef, subsidized up to 50 cents a pound, are driving down the price that our Canadian beef producers receive for their product.

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The Government promised in the election campaign "an effective fast track tariff policy, so that responsive action could be taken to protect producers by imposing import restrictions when necessary". Yet today, Mr. Speaker, there is not a single piece of legislation to implement this election promise or any other Tory election promise for agriculture, on the Order Paper of this House.

A recent report of the Farm Credit Corporation showed that 39,000 farmers across Canada are under serious financial stress this winter due to low commodity prices, and 1,700 are actually facing total financial collapse. Mr. Speaker, the Government was elected three months ago but has still not taken action to stop this dumping of subsidized beef by the European Economic Community countries. The Government must move immediately to stop this unfair practice which is driving more and more of our Canadian beef producers into bankruptcy.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   AGRICULTURE
Sub-subtopic:   IMPORTATION OF BEEF FROM DENMARK AND IRELAND- EFFECT ON CANADIAN FARMERS
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EXTERNAL AFFAIRS

NDP

Daniel James Macdonnell Heap

New Democratic Party

Mr. Dan Heap (Spadina):

Mr. Speaker, I rise to commend the Secretary of State for External Affairs (Mr. Clark) on his apparent active inquiry into Canada's need for direct representation in Nicaragua.

As the only Member of this House to witness the November 4 election held in Nicaragua, I assure my honourable colleagues that that election was a genuine, democratic act of choice by the people of Nicaragua. It was not perfect, as elections in Canada are not perfect. However, it formally confirms what has already been plain to observers-the fact that the Government of Nicaragua is controlled by nobody but the people of Nicaragua.

As a sovereign state, engaged in desperate defence against the most powerful state in the world, Nicaragua has sent an ambassador to Canada, and deserves to receive an ambassador from Canada. Therefore I welcome the Minister's report inquiry into the pros and cons of establishing permanent representation there. The Globe and Mail today sums it up well:

The establishment of a permanent Canadian "presence" there is highly desirable-

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The absence of an embassy in Nicaragua leaves Canada dependent on the U.S. for more than information. Canadians resident in Nicaragua are asked to register with the American embassy. If there were an invasion, Canadians would have to rely upon the invader's embassy to co-ordinate their evacuation. That should be an embarrassment-to Joe Clark and to Canada.

1 urge the Minister to act soon to help head off the dangers of war in Central America.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   NICARAGUA-SUGGESTED ESTABLISHMENT OF CANADIAN DIPLOMATIC PRESENCE
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EXTERNAL AID

PC

John Martin Oostrom

Progressive Conservative

Mr. John Oostrom (Willowdale):

Mr. Speaker, a large number of my constituents would like to commend the Secretary of State for External Affairs (Mr. Clark) for his prompt and exemplary action in delivering aid to Ethiopia amounting to $50 million.

There are some sectors of the Ethiopian Community, however, which require prompt and immediate action, particularly the Falashas, one of the oldest Jewish groups, which faces the possibility of ceasing to exist as a cultural entity.

A group of my constituents who recently returned from Ethiopia, reported that Canadian aid was being hampered due to the civil war raging between the Ethiopian, Eritrean and Somalian factions. Consequently, I urge the Prime Minister (Mr. Mulroney) to direct the Secretary of State for External Affairs to instruct our Ambassador to the United Nations to seek an emergency session at the U.N. in order to propose an immediate 30-day truce during the upcoming holiday season, among the warring factions in Ethiopia so that Canada, in concert with other nations, could quickly organize an airlift and food drops to the inaccessible and war areas of Ethiopia to avoid an even greater disaster.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AID
Sub-subtopic:   PLIGHT OF JEWISH GROUP IN ETHIOPIA
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EMPLOYMENT

PC

W.R. (Bud) Jardine

Progressive Conservative

Mr. W. R. Bud Jardine (Northumberland-Miramichi):

Mr. Speaker, Northumberland-Miramichi is the largest geographical riding in New Brunswick.

Since the mid-1970s there has been a prolonged pause in the Miramichi region's economic development and growth. Poor market conditions throughout North America for pulp and lumber have been responsible, in part, for the closure or reduced operation of many of our pulp mills and paper mills.

The Miramichi must now be considered a problem area in economic terms; unemployment hovers around an astounding rate of 40 per cent; over 12 per cent of the population receives some sort of social assistance.

Against this dire picture enters the Minister of Employment and Immigration (Miss MacDonald). I assure you, Mr. Speaker, that very few people on the Miramichi enjoy being depend-

Oral Questions

ent on Canada Works grants. There is little permanency. There is never enough money to satisfy the demand.

But having said that, let me here and now acknowledge that the plight of our situation was recognized by the Hon. Minister and, of the projects which had been processed by the previous Government, not a single one had been terminated by her. Compassion, concern, and sensitivity to personal need were more important than partisan politics.

This year the amount of money allocated under Canada Works for Northumberland-Miramichi has more than doubled over the previous initial allocation, to $2 million.

In thanking the Hon. Minister, I assure her on behalf of the people of Miramichi that the money will be well spent-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   EMPLOYMENT
Sub-subtopic:   INCREASED ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR M1RAMICHI RIDING
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PC

Martial Asselin (Speaker pro tempore)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I regret to advise the Hon. Member that his time has expired.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   EMPLOYMENT
Sub-subtopic:   INCREASED ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR M1RAMICHI RIDING
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