June 27, 1984

PC

J. Robert Howie

Progressive Conservative

Hon. J. Robert Howie (York-Sunbury):

As the Minister has indicated, will he release the contents of the analysis so the information can be examined and evaluated by all Members of Parliament on behalf of their constituents who have paid for an analysis which appears to be extremely partisan?

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Subtopic:   REQUEST THAT ANALYSIS CONTENTS BE MADE PUBLIC
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LIB

Mark R. MacGuigan (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Hon. Mark MacGuigan (Minister of Justice):

Mr. Speaker, on the assumption that what I would make available to my hon. friend would become public anyway, I will be glad to make it public.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST THAT ANALYSIS CONTENTS BE MADE PUBLIC
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LABOUR CONDITIONS

NDP

Margaret Anne Mitchell

New Democratic Party

Ms. Margaret Mitchell (Vancouver East):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Finance. This month another batch of students are out on the streets looking for jobs that do not exist. Many of them will be living off their families, or lining up at food banks. What does the Minister intend to do about this intolerable situation? Does he accept the statements of the Minister of State for Youth that over 800,000 young Canadians are unemployed now and that this situation will remain? What is he going to do about this? Is this the Liberal election platform for youth?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   YOUTH UNEMPLOYMENT-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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LIB

Céline Hervieux-Payette (Minister of State (Youth))

Liberal

Hon. Celine Hervieux-Payette (Minister of State (Youth)):

Mr. Speaker, last week when we released our report, Focus on Youth, we realized that there was indeed unemployment at the rate of 18.5 per cent and that this does not include those who are not looking for jobs and would need to be trained. In the last Budget of the Minister of Finance, $150 million was set aside, and $30 million is now going to be devoted to a youth training option which I feel is certainly a beginning to finding a solution for those people who are unskilled and have a hard time finding a job.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   YOUTH UNEMPLOYMENT-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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MANITOBA GOVERNMENT'S INITIATIVE

NDP

Margaret Anne Mitchell

New Democratic Party

Ms. Margaret Mitchell (Vancouver East):

Mr. Speaker, my supplementary question is for the Minister of Finance. It concerns economic policy. By adopting a "jobs first" policy the NDP Government in Manitoba has reduced youth unemployment from 21 per cent to 10 per cent in one year, while the unemployment rate has gone up in other provinces, as the Minister knows. Why does the federal Government not adopt a similar kind of economic policy and put jobs first as a national priority? Why is this happening only in Manitoba? Why should it not be for young people right across Canada?

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Subtopic:   MANITOBA GOVERNMENT'S INITIATIVE
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LIB

Marc Lalonde (Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Hon. Marc Lalonde (Minister of Finance):

Mr. Speaker, I can understand that last gasp by the NDP. I welcome initiatives being taken by provincial Governments across the country. There have been a number of provincial Governments which have taken some initiatives. Some have taken more than others. It shows that when federal government and provincial government programs get together and go in the same direction, they produce good results. I remind my hon. friend that in Manitoba, as in other provinces, federal Government programs are at work and are quite effective. As I said, we have allocated more money than ever in our history for the support of young people in need of jobs or training. It runs into billions of dollars.

When provincial Governments agree to do their share in addition, and to contribute to this effort, it will obviously have better results. I would hope that Conservative Governments in the other provinces will take a leaf from Manitoba's book and help the federal Government reduce unemployment all across the country. The Hon. Member knows that the Government

June 27, 1984

Oral Questions

has put economic recovery and growth and job creation at the [English]

top of its priorities. Mr. McKenzie: I want to point out to the Minister that

nothing was checked, investigated or answered by Mr. Warren

in committee.

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Subtopic:   MANITOBA GOVERNMENT'S INITIATIVE
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CANADA POST CORPORATION

PC

A. Daniel McKenzie

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Dan McKenzie (Winnipeg-Assiniboine):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister responsible for Canada Post. Ad Varma, an employee rated by Canada Post Corporation as outstanding in his ability, quality of work and output, has been fired by Michael Warren for consulting with Members of Parliament in regard to waste and mismanagement within the Corporation. This employee has been assessed as carrying out his assigned projects with the highest degree of industrial engineering, expertise, enthusiasm and skill, which clearly indicates that he is fully qualified to make comments and recommendations.

As employees should be encouraged and rewarded for coming forward with information, will the Minister take immediate steps to have Mr. Varma reinstated, and take the necessary steps to provide an appropriate committee with an order of reference to conduct a full and complete investigation into the problems-

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA POST CORPORATION
Sub-subtopic:   FIRING OF EMPLOYEE WHO CONSULTED WITH MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
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LIB

Gildas L. Molgat (Speaker pro tempore)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

The Chair has concern about a very specific case. Such a question should be on the Order Paper. However, if the Minister wants to comment, he may.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA POST CORPORATION
Sub-subtopic:   FIRING OF EMPLOYEE WHO CONSULTED WITH MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
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?

An Hon. Member:

It was on the front page of The Star.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA POST CORPORATION
Sub-subtopic:   FIRING OF EMPLOYEE WHO CONSULTED WITH MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
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LIB

Gildas L. Molgat (Speaker pro tempore)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. We are trying to follow certain procedures. I have been given a very long list of names from the Official Opposition today. There is no way I can possibly do justice to it. However, if the Hon. Member will quickly get to his point it will help.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA POST CORPORATION
Sub-subtopic:   FIRING OF EMPLOYEE WHO CONSULTED WITH MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
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PC

A. Daniel McKenzie

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McKenzie:

We usually do not put questions on the Order Paper about someone being fired, Mr. Speaker.

Will the Minister have a proper committee set up so that we can hear witnesses under oath, including Mr. Varma and Mr. Warren, to study the problems within Canada Post?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA POST CORPORATION
Sub-subtopic:   FIRING OF EMPLOYEE WHO CONSULTED WITH MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
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LIB

André Ouellet (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. Andre Ouellet (Minister of Labour):

Mr. Speaker, the President of the Canada Post Corporation, Mr. Warren, has already responded to all the allegations made by Mr. Varma before a Parliamentary Committee. I do not see how it could be useful to refer the matter to another Parliamentary Committee. Mr. Varma has not raised any new points and the information he released has been checked and proved to be unfounded, on most counts.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA POST CORPORATION
Sub-subtopic:   FIRING OF EMPLOYEE WHO CONSULTED WITH MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
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UNION POSITION

PC

A. Daniel McKenzie

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Dan McKenzie (Winnipeg-Assiniboine):

Mr. A. M.

Davies, the former special representative of the Executive Vice-President and Chief Operating Officer of Canada Post Corporation, stated in November, 1983, that he supports everything that Mr. Varma says and is just as concerned as Mr. Varma, and the line supervisors confirm what Mr. Varma says. He also stated-

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Subtopic:   UNION POSITION
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LIB

Gildas L. Molgat (Speaker pro tempore)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

I am trying to be fair with the Hon. Member. He is raising a very specific case. I have indicated certain guidelines with regard to supplementary questions. If the Hon. Member insists on a long quotation on a supplementary, could he not just ask his supplementary?

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Subtopic:   UNION POSITION
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PC

A. Daniel McKenzie

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McKenzie:

The union is in a position to strip Michael Warren of his credibility. What will the Minister do about this problem of the union stripping Mr. Warren of his credibility? Will he please reconsider appointing a committee and have all the witnesses called in under oath to examine the charges made by Mr. Varma and other employees of Canada Post?

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Subtopic:   UNION POSITION
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LIB

André Ouellet (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. Andre Ouellet (Minister of Labour):

Mr. Speaker, I think the Hon. Member's conclusions are rather strange. He started by trying to defend the position of one specific employee, and he then proceeded with considerations of a general nature, namely that the entire union is involved in this conflict with Mr. Warren. I have the impression that it is a personal matter between Mr. Varma and the Hon. Member.

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Subtopic:   UNION POSITION
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June 27, 1984