Hon. Bob Kaplan (Solicitor General of Canada):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to inform the House that there have been consultations among the representatives of the Parties and that it has not been possible to reach an agreement pursuant to Standing Order 80 or 81 which regard to the allocation of time to the report stage and third reading of Bill C-9, an Act to establish the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, to enact an Act respecting enforcement in relation to certain securities and related offences and to amend certain Acts in consequence thereof or in relation thereto, and that therefore at the next sitting of the House I shall propose a motion pursuant to Standing Order 82 to allocate one sitting day to each of the said stages of the said Bill.

Closure!

Mr. Deans:

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. It is my understanding that there are still some procedural rulings to come from the Chair. How can we possibly end the debate on a motion that is without procedural rulings?

Mr. Speaker:

Order. The House has commenced debate. The fact that there are possible points of order raised in the course of the debate will not affect the validity of the motion put by the Hon. Minister.

Mr. Robinson (Burnaby):

Mr. Speaker, in giving notice, the Solicitor General (Mr. Kaplan) is attempting to shut down debate on one of the most important-

Mr. Speaker:

The Hon. Member is not speaking to a point of order.

Mr. John Evans (Parliamentary Secretary to President of the Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, the following question will be answered today: No. 503.

Since March 1, 1983, did the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation or its subsidiaries make any loans to its employees and, if so, in each case (a) on what date was the loan (i) made (ii) due (b) what was the (i) amount of the loan (ii) interest rate charged (iii) purpose of the loan?

Hon. Francis Fox (Minister of Communications):

I am

informed by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation as follows:

June 18, 1984

Yes, in the period March 1, 1983 to January 31, 1984 loans, as detailed below, were made by the CBC-the CBC has no subsidiaries-to its employees:

(i) (ii) (i) (ii) (Hi)Date Loan Date Loan (b) Amount of Interest Made Due Loan Rate Purpose

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Apr. 01/83 Apr. 01/88 12,750 Nil Relocation-Housing1June 20/83 June 16/88 12,500 Nil Relocation-HousingSept. 15/83 Sept. 15/88 21,400 Nil Relocation-HousingSept. 15/83 Sept. 15/88 21,000 Nil Relocation-HousingOct. 18/83 Oct. 18/88 6,500 Nil Relocation-HousingNov. 28/83 Nov. 28/88 8,500 Nil Relocation-HousingDec. 15/83 Dec. 15/88 14,000 Nil Relocation-HousingDec. 15/83 Dec. 15/88 17,500 Nil Relocation-HousingDec. 20/83 Dec. 20/88 8,700 Nil Relocation-HousingJan. 04/84 Jan. 04/89 9,250 Nil Relocation-HousingJan. 04/84 Jan. 04/89 4,125 Nil Relocation-HousingJan. 10/84 Jan. 10/89 26,000 Nil Relocation-HousingJan. 23/84 Jan. 23/89 8,000 Nil Relocation-HousingAug. 02/83 Feb. 29/84 7,000 10% Foreign Posting2Aug. 16/83 Aug. 16/86 15,000 10% Foreign Posting1 Where the Corporation requires an employee to relocate to an area where the cost of housing of comparable standard is significantly higher,, assistance in meeting this additional cost may be provided in the form of an interest-free loan for a limited period of time. The CBC policy in this regard is in line with that of other large Canadian corporations and government departments.2 Where the Corporation assigns an employee to a foreign location, a posting loan may be made to aid in the transition from Canada to the foreign country. The Foreign Service Directives of the Government of Canada apply to all such loans.

Mr. Speaker:

The questions as enumerated by the Parliamentary Secretary have been answered.

Mr. John Evans (Parliamentary Secretary to President of the Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, if question No. 687 could be made an order for return, this return would be tabled immediately.

Mr. Speaker:

Is it the pleasure of the House that question No. 687 be made an order for return?

Agreed.

Since January 1, 1983 were any projects funded in Saskatchewan under the Immediate Employment Stimulation Program and, if so, what (a) are the names of the groups funded and the amounts in which they were funded and to what purpose(s) (b) criteria were used in assessing the validity of projects?

Return tabled.

Mr. Evans:

I ask, Mr. Speaker, that the remaining questions be allowed to stand.

Security Intelligence Service Mr. Speaker: Shall the remaining questions stand?

Agreed.