June 1, 1984

LIB

Gildas L. Molgat (Speaker pro tempore)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

May I call the attention of the House to the presence in our gallery of the Lieutenant Governor of the State of Illinois, the Hon. George Ryan.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   PRESENCE IN GALLERY OF LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS
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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

June 1, 1984

Oral Questions PARLIAMENT HILL

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   PRESENCE IN GALLERY OF LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS
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AUTHORITY FOR USE BY PEACE CAMP

PC

William C. Scott

Progressive Conservative

Mr. W. C. Scott (Victoria-Haliburton):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Public Works. Each day as I come from the Confederation Building I notice a mini campground in front of the entrance to this great place, the House of Commons. I understand that the grounds are under the Minister's jurisdiction, and I ask him to clarify the status of the public grounds around Parliament Hill. Do these members of a special interest group have an agreement with Public Works, or are they paying rent?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   AUTHORITY FOR USE BY PEACE CAMP
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LIB

Roméo LeBlanc (Minister of Public Works; Minister responsible for Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation)

Liberal

Hon. Romeo LeBlanc (Minister of Public Works):

Mr. Speaker, I presume the Hon. Member is referring to what has commonly become known as the Peace Camp. Am I correct? This situation arose quite a long time ago, as the Hon. Member knows. In fact it lasted throughout the winter. Perhaps the Hon. Member knows that under the previous administrative arrangements there was a committee composed of a number of Departments which, in fact, gave permission for the initial demonstration or manifestation of views to take place. So far the Government has not chosen to put an end to this expression of views.

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Subtopic:   AUTHORITY FOR USE BY PEACE CAMP
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CAMPING REGULATIONS

PC

William C. Scott

Progressive Conservative

Mr. W. C. Scott (Victoria-Haliburton):

Mr. Speaker, my supplementary question is directed to the same Minister. I would then assume that any Canadian citizen or group of Canadian citizens could apply for permission to camp there, or camp there without permission. What action would the Government take? Would they be welcome to camp there during the summer season in particular when there are a lot of campers who would be interested in such a nice camping spot?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CAMPING REGULATIONS
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LIB

Roméo LeBlanc (Minister of Public Works; Minister responsible for Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation)

Liberal

Hon. Romeo LeBlanc (Minister of Public Works):

Mr. Speaker, the NCC provides other camping facilities with somewhat better services than those provided in front of the Centennial Flame. That being said, it is because of the possibility that other groups might want to set up a permanent Hyde Park corner type of arrangement that we are reviewing the administrative processes that I mentioned earlier.

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Subtopic:   CAMPING REGULATIONS
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NATIONAL RESOURCES

NDP

James Ross Fulton

New Democratic Party

Mr. Jim Fulton (Skeena):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of the Environment. I am sure he is aware by now that the auctioneers presently running British Columbia, known as the Socreds, who are the Liberal wing in the West, have authorized in principle the export of fresh water from British Columbia. A short time ago, and I am glad to see him in the Chamber today, the Hon. Member for Dollard proposed damming the southern part of James Bay

with a 160 kilometre-long dike and diverting those rivers to the United States, undisputed by any members of Cabinet as to the legality or illegality of such a proposal.

In a letter to me dated February 3, the Minister said, and I quote:

-the Government of Canada has never formally sanctioned any water export scheme, and is clearly on record as opposing the export of our water resources. Provincial statements parallel federal policy in this regard.

Will the Minister tell us whether the proposal by the British Columbia Government is legal or illegal? Since it is not sanctioned, what does that mean? Will he stop it or not?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   NATIONAL RESOURCES
Sub-subtopic:   BRITISH COLUMBIA GOVERNMENT'S PROPOSAL TO EXPORT WATER
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Hon. Chas. L. Caccia@Minister of the Environment

Mr. Speaker, as a citizen of British Columbia the Hon. Member holds part of the responsibility for that Province being up for sale. Having said that, I would confirm the letter from which he is quoting dated last February, by saying that a number of ideas have been floating around, not just in British Columbia, about water diversion and the export of water. Nevertheless, our position on that is clear and consistent. We do not subscribe to this notion. We reject the contention that water is available for export. This will be a very important commodity for Canadians in the decades ahead. We therefore reject any such notion, whether it comes from provinces, municipalities, or regions in the North.

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Subtopic:   NATIONAL RESOURCES
Sub-subtopic:   BRITISH COLUMBIA GOVERNMENT'S PROPOSAL TO EXPORT WATER
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JAMES BAY WATER RESOURCES

NDP

James Ross Fulton

New Democratic Party

Mr. Jim Fulton (Skeena):

Mr. Speaker, my supplementary question is directed to the Minister for International Trade. The Minister wrote me on February 15 stating that he supports the export of Canadian pop, Canadian beer and Canadian booze, but, to quote him: "You can be assured that the policy of the Government of Canada is not to sanction the export of fresh water." I wonder whether the Minister had his thinking cap on this morning and whether he can tell us if he supports and endorses the proposal by the Hon. Member for Dollard to divert James Bay to the United States, and what he thinks sanctions are in terms of the approval in principle by British Columbia to export water internationally.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   JAMES BAY WATER RESOURCES
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LIB

Gildas L. Molgat (Speaker pro tempore)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

The Chair is concerned about moving from one Minister to another for supplementaries.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   JAMES BAY WATER RESOURCES
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NDP
LIB

Gildas L. Molgat (Speaker pro tempore)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Either we have procedures in the House or we do not. The Chair will permit the supplementary question.

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Subtopic:   JAMES BAY WATER RESOURCES
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Hon. Chas. L. Caccia@Minister of the Environment

Mr. Speaker, we certainly subscribe to the idea of exporting beer to any part of the world that recognizes the high quality of our product, but we do not subscribe to the idea of exporting our water. It is as simple as that.

June 1, 1984

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   JAMES BAY WATER RESOURCES
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NATIONAL DEFENCE

PC

J. Michael Forrestall (Deputy Whip of the Progressive Conservative Party)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. J. M. Forrestall (Dartmouth-Halifax East):

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of National Defence. It has to do with the engine problems experienced some months ago in the Aurora aircraft. Will the Minister indicate whether the engineering defects in those Pratt & Whitney engines have been overcome? Are all aircraft now operational?

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Subtopic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Sub-subtopic:   AURORA AIRCRAFT-ENGINE DEFECTS
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Hon. J.-J. Blais@Minister of National Defence

Mr. Speaker, I thank the Hon. Member for his question. He is quite right that engineering difficulties were experienced with the guide vanes on the Aurora aircraft engines. Those problems have now been rectified. There has been a replacement of the guide vanes. I am pleased to advise the Hon. Member that we identified the engineering changes that will be required. Those changes are presently being tested.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Sub-subtopic:   AURORA AIRCRAFT-ENGINE DEFECTS
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June 1, 1984