May 31, 1984

PC

Michael Holcombe Wilson

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Michael Wilson (Etobicoke Centre):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Regional Industrial Expansion and it relates to the support that the Government announced last week for the Devco mine and the closure of No. 26 Colliery, an announcement which we on this side of the House welcome. However, I am sure that the Minister is aware of the concerns that have been expressed regarding the safety of the mine, and of the hope that has been expressed that this type of disaster will not recur.

Since Colliery No. 26 experienced a series of fires over the years, some of which caused fatalities, there have been recommendations for the installation of fire doors in the mines to control fires. Would the Minister say whether he has ascertained why these fire doors were not installed in No. 26 Colliery? And would he tell us whether it will be a requirement that fire doors be installed now in all Devco operations?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Sub-subtopic:   AID TO DEVCO COAL MINE-INSTALLATION OF FIRE DOORS
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LIB

André Ouellet (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. Andre Ouellet (Minister of Labour):

Mr. Speaker, the hon. member should have directed his question to the minister who, through his department, is responsible for security. I can tell him, however, that some of my officials are now carrying out an investigation on the spot and discussing the situation with representatives of both the company and the union.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Sub-subtopic:   AID TO DEVCO COAL MINE-INSTALLATION OF FIRE DOORS
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MAINTENANCE OF EQUIPMENT

PC

Michael Holcombe Wilson

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Michael Wilson (Etobicoke Centre):

Mr. Speaker, I direct my supplementary question to the same Minister. Mr. Webby Murray, a retired CLC safety inspector, is quoted as saying:

There's no doubt in my mind that if the belt lines (underground conveyors which transport the coal) had been properly cleaned and serviced and stone-dusted, (which reduces the likelihood of sparks igniting), 26 would not have had that fire.

Is the Minister, during the course of his investigations, looking into this allegation, and others like it, as part of the

comprehensive review of corporate operations which was announced by the Minister last week?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   MAINTENANCE OF EQUIPMENT
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LIB

André Ouellet (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. Andre Ouellet (Minister of Labour):

Mr. Speaker, my officials, while carrying out their investigation, will certainly check whether this statement and others are true.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   MAINTENANCE OF EQUIPMENT
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INQUIRY OF THE MINISTRY

LIB

Irénée Pelletier

Liberal

Mr. Irenee Pelletier (Sherbrooke):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Leader of the Government. I would like to know whether he could tell us when the motion providing for the setting up of a committee to consider the definition of a charitable organization under the terms of the Income Tax Act will be introduced in the House?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INQUIRY OF THE MINISTRY
Sub-subtopic:   DATE OF PRESENTATION OF MOTION TO ESTABLISH TASK FORCE ON CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS
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LIB

Yvon Pinard (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Yvon Pinard (President of the Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, this motion is already on the Order Paper. I am now negotiating with the Opposition hoping to get it approved as quickly as possible and I expect an answer to my proposal within the next few days.

I can therefore assure the Hon. Member that, as far as the Government is concerned, we want this motion to be approved as soon as possible. However, there are not many days left before the summer adjournment and we will try to reach an agreement with the Opposition to debate and approve this motion in the very near future unless the conditions laid down by the Opposition are so exaggerated that we cannot reasonably accept them as this would mean going against the other priorities of the Government.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INQUIRY OF THE MINISTRY
Sub-subtopic:   DATE OF PRESENTATION OF MOTION TO ESTABLISH TASK FORCE ON CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS
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CANADIAN RADIO-TELEVISION AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION REGULATION OF LONG DISTANCE TELEPHONE SERVICE

NDP

David Orlikow

New Democratic Party

Mr. David Orlikow (Winnipeg North):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Communications. The Minister knows that Canadians are proud of the high quality and reasonable cost of their telephone service. I am sure he also knows that, as a result of deregulation of the telephone industry in the United States, local rates for U.S. residents and small business people have doubled and tripled. The CRTC is now going to consider an application by CN-CP Telecommunications to be permitted to compete with Bell Telephone for long distance telephone service. If its application is approved it will soon mean substantial increases in the monthly rates paid by consumers.

May 31, 1984

Will the Minister exercise the authority which he has as the Minister of Communications and tell the CRTC that we do not want deregulation of the telephone industry, which will have a disastrous effect on the consumers?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN RADIO-TELEVISION AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION REGULATION OF LONG DISTANCE TELEPHONE SERVICE
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LIB

Francis Fox (Minister of Communications)

Liberal

Hon. Francis Fox (Minister of Communications):

Mr. Speaker, the Hon. Member raises an obvious question of very great importance. The Hon. Member knows that the CRTC receives applications from various telephone companies across the country on a number of subjects, and that the Government's power to intervene is usually on appeal. The Government doees not at the moment have power of direction over the CRTC. I would very much encourage the Hon. Member to discuss this matter with the critic for the Official Opposition and to seek quick passage of Bill C-20, which would give Parliament and the Government of the day the opportunity to look at this question and to issue directives to the CRTC on the type of architecture we want to have for our telecommunications and broadcasting system in Canada.

Up to now I do not have the co-operation of the Official Opposition in order to bring this Bill forward and pass it quickly before the House rises. I would very much hope that we could do so in order to allow us to make substantial progress in ensuring that the elected representatives of the people are the ones who decide on the architecture of the system.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN RADIO-TELEVISION AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION REGULATION OF LONG DISTANCE TELEPHONE SERVICE
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BELL CANADA-LOCAL SERVICE RATES

NDP

David Orlikow

New Democratic Party

Mr. David Orlikow (Winnipeg North):

Mr. Speaker, I am sure the Minister knows that the next step to deregulation in the United States, and one which is being considered by Bell Canada, is local measured service which, again, would mean very sharp increases for the consumers, particularly for the elderly and the sick. Would the Minister indicate to the CRTC, and to the people of Canada, that the Government of Canada opposes that kind of idea which is now receiving support in the United States?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   BELL CANADA-LOCAL SERVICE RATES
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LIB

Francis Fox (Minister of Communications)

Liberal

Hon. Francis Fox (Minister of Communications):

Mr. Speaker, once again the Hon. Member raises a question of fundamental concern, and one which Canadians will certainly be debating with a great deal of interest in the years to come. I feel that this type of question should be debated in this forum and in parliamentary committees. One way of doing so is the passage of Bill C-20 which-

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   BELL CANADA-LOCAL SERVICE RATES
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PC

Paul Wyatt Dick (Deputy House Leader of the Official Opposition; Progressive Conservative Party Deputy House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Dick:

What is the government view?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   BELL CANADA-LOCAL SERVICE RATES
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LIB

Francis Fox (Minister of Communications)

Liberal

Mr. Fox:

-the Leader of the Official Opposition wants us to split in two parts, basically allowing part of it to go through, but not allowing the part to go through which would allow Parliament, and the Government of the day, to have an influence on this type of question-

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   BELL CANADA-LOCAL SERVICE RATES
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PC

Paul Wyatt Dick (Deputy House Leader of the Official Opposition; Progressive Conservative Party Deputy House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Dick:

What is the Government's view?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   BELL CANADA-LOCAL SERVICE RATES
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LIB

Francis Fox (Minister of Communications)

Liberal

Mr. Fox:

-instead of a quasi-judicial body. I would very much hope that, through the Hon. Member's questions, the

Oral Questions

House Leader of the Official Opposition would be sensitized to this question. It is of fundamental importance to the type of telecommunications industry we will have in this country, a fact which the Official Opposition does not yet realize and fails to accept.

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Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   BELL CANADA-LOCAL SERVICE RATES
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CANADA SPORTS POOL CORPORATION-ALLEGED DIFFICULTY IN SECURING PRIZE MONEY

PC

Roch La Salle

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Roch La Salle (Joliette):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of State (Fitness and Amateur Sport).

Mr. Speaker, as the House is aware, in the last few days the Minister has been telling us about his new system for Sport Select, the sports pool, and he tried to prove that the system was foolproof. Yesterday, a man from Laval won the incredible sum of $20.65. He had to go to two gas stations, plus four corner stores, to get his money! Considering the fact that ticket vendors were selected on the basis of competence and not party affiliation, could the Minister inform the House today whether he is going to comment on the problems encountered by this lucky winner in collecting his $20.65?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA SPORTS POOL CORPORATION-ALLEGED DIFFICULTY IN SECURING PRIZE MONEY
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May 31, 1984