May 14, 1984

STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21

NATIONAL REVENUE

PC

Gordon Edward Taylor

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gordon Taylor (Bow River):

Mr. Speaker, 1 have several times brought to the attention of the Minister, in this House and by letter, the plight of a constituent of mine who lives in Cochrane, Alberta. He paid $1,000 on an instalment basis to the Department of National Revenue through the Mercantile Bank in Calgary, on October 14, 1975. The Minister admits the money came to the Department, it was not credited to this man's account, and about that time it sent a $1,000 cheque back to the Mercantile Bank in Calgary because of a lack of identification. The bank says it is agreed by all that my constituent paid the $1,000 in October, 1975, and that the bank took another $1,000 to pay this same account out of this man's bank account, by order of Revenue Canada, because it had not been credited to his account.

The bank goes on to say there is evidence that the man paid the $1,000 and the Department does not have evidence it paid the $1,000 back to the bank. The bank says if it had some evidence of that, the bank would make it good. But the Department cannot come up with that evidence because the Minister says the departmental records have been destroyed. Surely, Mr. Speaker, this man should not be left holding the bag.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   NATIONAL REVENUE
Sub-subtopic:   ALBERTA TAXPAYER'S CLAIM AGAINST DEPARTMENT
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LIB

Gildas L. Molgat (Speaker pro tempore)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

The Hon. Member's time has expired.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   NATIONAL REVENUE
Sub-subtopic:   ALBERTA TAXPAYER'S CLAIM AGAINST DEPARTMENT
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THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION

LIB

Gaston Gourde (Parliamentary Secretary to the Solicitor General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Gaston Gourde (Parliamentary Secretary to Solicitor General of Canada):

Mr. Speaker, Canadians have always wondered what the Leader of the Progressive Conservative Party meant by cutbacks. He has said time and time again that cutbacks are absolutely necessary, adding that if he were

to form the Government, he would make radical cuts in spending, wherever and whenever that would be necessary.

Mr. Speaker, I am sorry to say that at the very first opportunity, the Leader of the Official Opposition did not hesitate to spend our tax money very generously. Cutbacks were certainly not on his mind when he spent nearly $150,000 in public money on renovating, redecorating and a few coats of paint at Stornoway, the official residence of the Leader of the Opposition.

Predecessors of the present Leader of the Progressive Conservative Party showed Canadians they took cutbacks more seriously. Mr. Speaker, Canadians cannot afford to move this free spender from Stornoway to 24 Sussex Drive, the official residence of the Right Hon. Prime Minister. However, perhaps the Progressive Conservative Leader can afford to spend this kind of money on his residence because he already knows he will be there for a long time. He has signed a long term lease, unless the long knives of the Progressive Conservative Party do their work once more.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
Sub-subtopic:   OFFICIAL RESIDENCE RENOVATION COSTS
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INVESTITURE OF GOVERNOR GENERAL SAUVE

PC

Flora Isabel MacDonald

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Flora MacDonald (Kingston and the Islands):

Mr. Speaker, those of us who have the honour to sit in this Chamber develop a special kinship for one another regardless of party affiliation. We take deep personal interest in one another, and that continues even when we leave this Chamber. Never, Sir, were those ties more deeply felt, never was that interest more deeply evidenced than this morning when we saw one of our former Members elevated to the highest office in the land as Governor General. We who came here in the class of '72 are particularly proud that one of our number should be so designated.

Her Excellency, Madam Sauve, takes with her to that high office a wealth of experience and accomplishment which has distinguished her public service to Canada.

I said that Members of the class of '72 are happy to see this great honour conferred on one of their group. Speaking as well, if I may, on behalf of the Minister of National Health and Welfare, since we both became Members of the House at the same time as Mrs. Sauve, I must say that we are particularly pleased. We are proud of the fact that she is the first

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woman to be appointed to this very distinguished post. We are convinced she will approach this new task with wisdom and fortitude, and we wish her the very best.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   INVESTITURE OF GOVERNOR GENERAL SAUVE
Sub-subtopic:   CONGRATULATIONS TO FORMER MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT
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THE ECONOMY

LIB

André Maltais

Liberal

Mr. Andre Maltais (Manicouagan):

Mr. Speaker, the Canadian Government has done a great deal for people in northern communities, especially in the last two years since the iron ore slump hit the North Shore. However, I do wish the Government would continue to look at what is happening to people in Schefferville, Gagnon and Fermont, and in Labrador City and Wabush next door to my own constituency, because there are people who have been laid off recently and who have yet to receive all the benefits agreed to by Iron Ore. They should receive some additional assistance from the Government. Mr. Speaker, it is often said that our recovery is being launched by the private sector. I must say that on the North Shore, the private sector caused the problem. I would like to see the Government make an additional effort to provide assistance, not to companies that are already being helped through the statutory measures of our programs but to the people directly affected by the recession.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE ECONOMY
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST THAT GOVERNMENT PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTARY AID FOR QUEBEC NORTH SHORE
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HUMAN RIGHTS

NDP

Nelson Andrew Riis

New Democratic Party

Mr. Nelson A. Riis (Kamloops-Shuswap):

Mr. Speaker, last week the Government of British Columbia passed a Human Rights Act which represents a big step into the Dark Ages for British Columbians. This Act violates several international conventions previously agreed to by the Government of British Columbia.

Under the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination Against Women, Canada has agreed to educate the public about racial and sexual discrimination. The proposed new Human Rights Council in British Columbia will be unable to enforce existing legislation against racial discrimination and discrimination against women.

This new legislation drops the clause prohibiting discrimination "without reasonable cause". By dropping this clause the provincial Government is violating the spirit of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. Since the federal Government is aware of these violations and some Ministers have rejected the provincial Government's changes to the Human Rights Act, I would like to call on the Prime Minister

to have a serious talk with Premier Bennett. These violations should be presented to the United Nations tribunal by the appropriate body.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   HUMAN RIGHTS
Sub-subtopic:   BRITISH COLUMBIA LEGISLATION
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INVESTITURE OF GOVERNOR GENERAL SAUVE

LIB

Jesse Philip Flis

Liberal

Mr. Jesse P. Flis (Parkdale-High Park):

Mr. Speaker, as already mentioned by the Hon. Member for Kingston and the Islands (Miss MacDonald), today Canadians witnessed the investiture of the Hon. Jeanne Sauve as the 23rd Governor General of Canada. After a lengthy illness we are pleased that God gave her the health and the strength to assume the highest office of our country. By accepting this office, her Excellency has made today a great day for all women in Canada, and a great day for Canada itself.

Her Excellency has already drawn our attention to two serious issues facing Canada and the world, the problems of our youth and the problems of Third World people who find themselves in countries less fortunate than our own. On behalf of the Constituents of Parkdale-High Park I wish Her Excellency, the Hon. Jeanne Sauve, continued health and strength so that, with our help, she can find solutions to the problems facing Canada and the world.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   INVESTITURE OF GOVERNOR GENERAL SAUVE
Sub-subtopic:   EXPRESSION OF GOOD WISHES
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VIA RAIL

PC

William Henry (Bill) Domm

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Bill Domm (Peterborough):

Mr. Speaker, I rise today on an important matter relating to the cancellation of VIA Rail passenger service between Toronto, Peterborough, and Havelock. Since its very questionable termination in 1981, we in the Official Opposition have continually criticized the decision to terminate the most cost-efficient route in Canada. In fact our opinion was fully endorsed by the Railway Transport Committee of the CTC which recommended that:

-pending the outcome of this further review, the Toronto-Havelock service shall not be discontinued.

The reason for cancelling this service, we are told, was based upon insufficient funds and the need for restraint. It will, therefore, come as quite a surprise to learn that the Grand Trunk Corporation of Detroit, a subsidiary of Canadian National, is attempting to buy control of the bankrupt Milwaukee Road Railway which has net liabilities of approximately $250 million. Its main competitor to buy this line is the Soo Line of Minneapolis, which in turn is controlled by Canadian Pacific.

It is indeed interesting that the railways which have no money for functioning Canadian lines have sufficient bankrolls to bid for bankrupt American rail lines. It is deplorable and fiscally irresponsible for two Canadian railways to compete for the acquisition of foreign owned companies while simultane-

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ously denying Canadians the right to rail service, such as the Toronto-Peterborough-Havelock line.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   VIA RAIL
Sub-subtopic:   TORONTO-PETERBOROUGH-HAVELOCK-CALL FOR RESTORATION OF SERVICE
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PIPELINES

THREAT TO COMPLETION OF ALASKA HIGHWAY NATURAL GAS

PC

Dave Nickerson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Dave Nickerson (Western Arctic):

Mr. Speaker, Members of Parliament will recall some three years ago granting authority for the pre-build section of the Alaska Highway natural gas pipeline, that part designed to exploit Canadian gas reserves for the benefit of American markets, on condition that the line would be constructed in its entirety at some future date. Members will remember the so-called iron clad guarantees of the then Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources, the gentleman who now holds the portfolio of Minister of Finance (Mr. Lalonde). Well, it now appears that the line, in all probability, will never be built.

Yukon Pacific Corporation, headed by Walter Hickel, former Governor of Alaska, has now formally applied for permission to construct a trans-Alaska line to sell Prudhoe Bay gas to Japan. The end result is likely to be that Canada supplies the "lower 48" with cheap Canadian gas, while the Americans sell their own Alaskan gas to Japan at much higher prices. So much for the iron-clad guarantees, so much for the national energy policy, and so much for the guideless ex-Minister of Energy and the discredited Liberal Government which he serves.

Topic:   PIPELINES
Subtopic:   THREAT TO COMPLETION OF ALASKA HIGHWAY NATURAL GAS
Sub-subtopic:   PIPELINE
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MEDICAL CARE

May 14, 1984