March 7, 1984

STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21

ROAD SAFETY

PC

Constantine George (Gus) Mitges

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gus Mitges (Grey-Simcoe):

Mr. Speaker, the seatbelt laws now in force in most provinces apply to passenger cars, but in most cases do not apply to school buses and commercial buses. Statistics have shown that seatbelts have proven themselves in the prevention of serious accidents and many traffic deaths. However, it is disturbing to pick up a paper and read about school bus accidents that have resulted in death and serious injuries to school children that could have been prevented if seatbelts were available.

In Vancouver last month, serious injuries to ten young special-needs passengers were prevented when a school bus, equipped with seatbelts, was hit by a car and flipped over. Because of the seatbelts no one was thrown around and suffered severe injuries.

Just as vulnerable to serious injuries and death are those passengers travelling on public buses each day here in Ottawa and other municipalities. These passengers, including those standing in the buses each morning and evening, are more vulnerable to any accident that may take place, because of the absence of seatbelts. 1 realize that seatbelt legislation comes under provincial jurisdiction. However, I urge the federal Government to take the initiative by urging its provincial counterparts to pass legislation to make seatbelts mandatory on all school buses and on all commercial buses across Canada.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   ROAD SAFETY
Sub-subtopic:   CALL FOR MANDATORY USE OF SEATBELTS IN BUSES
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EMPLOYMENT

LIB

Jesse Philip Flis

Liberal

Mr. Jesse P. Flis (Parkdale-High Park):

Mr. Speaker, before the House rose for a one-week break, and again this week, Opposition Members were wailing about job grants on a "you got more than we got" basis. My riding of Parkdale-High Park was named by the Toronto Star on February 10 as the top money-receiving constituency in Metro Toronto. I am

proud of that record because it meant more jobs for unemployed Canadians.

Who really got job-creation grants? Are the grants the property of MP's or ridings, or are they grants to assist unemployed Canadians in a region? The point of the Opposition's protest could be understandable if the funds were going into the pockets of MP's. They are not. The funds are going to community and municipal groups. These groups or municipalities, in putting forward projects, think in the context of their communities, not that of federal ridings. People provided with employment opportunities as a result of job-creation grants are not hired on the basis of Party affiliation or even what riding they live in.

This Government recognizes that people want jobs. Are the Opposition Members trying to tell them they should not have a job because a Liberal MP was on the ball and obtained a grant, while they played "poor me" politics? Maybe the Opposition should be thinking more about employment opportunities afforded by this Government to unemployed workers on the basis of need, not their residency location or political affiliation, rather than thinking of what MP got what.

The Opposition would have a scandal if they could give a concrete example of, say, a worker from a neighbouring riding such as Etobicoke Centre being rejected because he or she is not in the riding of-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   EMPLOYMENT
Sub-subtopic:   DISTRIBUTION OF JOB-CREATION FUNDS
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LIB

Gildas L. Molgat (Speaker pro tempore)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. Unfortunately, the Hon. Member's time has expired.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   EMPLOYMENT
Sub-subtopic:   DISTRIBUTION OF JOB-CREATION FUNDS
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CROWN CORPORATIONS

PC

Gerry St. Germain

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gerry St. Germain (Mission-Port Moody):

Mr. Speaker, yesterday it was reported that another $550 million of taxpayers' money has been jettisoned into Canadair and de Havilland. The magnitude of that dollar amount is beyond the comprehension of most Canadians, especially to the two million unemployed.

I am sure the workers of de Havilland and Canadair are worried about mismanagement, the lack of controls, and the lack of accountability, because this could lead to their unemployment as well. These Government bailouts are like trying to fill a bottomless pit.

There is an alarming, growing trend in this country- Maislin, Dome, de Havilland, and Canadair. This is the list of financial disasters and failures that the Government opposite has seen fit to prop up with Canadian tax dollars. The

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Government has gone wild with our tax dollars. It destroys small business and jobs, with taxation and regulation. It threatens to destroy the very fibre of our economic base with its lack of accountability and total disregard for managing the Government's purse strings.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   CROWN CORPORATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   GRANTS TO CANADAIR AND DE HAVILLAND
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LIB

Gildas L. Molgat (Speaker pro tempore)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   CROWN CORPORATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   GRANTS TO CANADAIR AND DE HAVILLAND
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POLITICAL PARTIES

NDP

Svend Johannes Robinson

New Democratic Party

Mr. Svend J. Robinson (Burnaby):

Mr. Speaker, oh, the high priest of all things mean, tough, and nasty, the Hon. Member for St. John's West (Mr. Crosbie), finance critic for the Conservative Party, recently announced his Party's policy on family allowances and old age pensions. The Conservatives would go back to the days of means tested benefits, forcing senior citizens and poor women to suffer the indignity of detailed examination of all of their income and assets, by snooping public servants.

The CCF and NDP, and in particular pioneers such as the Hon. Member for Winnipeg North Centre (Mr. Knowles) and J. S. Woodsworth, fought long and hard for decent pensions and family allowances. We have called, for example, for an immediate 25 per cent increase in universal old age pensions and increases in the GIS to bring poor, elderly Canadians, a high proportion of whom are women, above the poverty line.

Given the new Conservative policy as announced by the Conservative finance critic, it is no wonder that Maureen McTeer recently said:

Because of the type of people who supported the present leader, there is a nervousness... there is a tendency ... to think the Party is moving backwards.

Under the mean, tough, and nasty hand of the Hon. Member for St. John's West and his Conservative colleagues, women and senior citizens will be the first victims. Burnaby women and seniors, beware!

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   POLITICAL PARTIES
Sub-subtopic:   PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE PARTY-SOCIAL SECURITY POLICIES
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EMPLOYMENT

LIB

Stanley Hudecki (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Stanley Hudecki (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of National Defence):

Mr. Speaker, a national advisory panel to the Minister of Employment and Immigration (Mr. Roberts) has developed a 10-year plan designed to help re-educate our nation in order to cope with technological change. The plan calls for the Government to take immediate action to implement programs to reduce illiteracy among Canadians, and to create programs to cope with growing job obsolescence.

The proposed scheme would provide employees with time off to take courses which would improve their skills or retrain

them for other jobs. Employees would earn the time off as they now earn vacation pay or sick leave. A tax credit for employers participating in the program would mean that public funds could be used to help workers retrain. At the same time this would help relieve the unemployment rate by paying for unemployed workers to be hired on a fill-in basis. I urge the Government to give considerable priority to this proposal as it offers a progressive model for the lifelong learning process which I believe would benefit the Canadian work force.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   EMPLOYMENT
Sub-subtopic:   RE-EDUCATION PLAN TO COPE WITH TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGE
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AGRICULTURE

PC

Gordon Edward Taylor

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gordon Taylor (Bow River):

Mr. Speaker, the Liberal Government is again betraying the western farmer. The Liberal Minister, when introducing the Western Grain Stabilization Act, told western producers that the fund would provide a cash flow in times of need. In 1982 western grain farmers suffered a loss of income, and they suffered another loss in 1983. Last year 154 prairie farms went bankrupt, with hundreds more on the verge of bankruptcy.

The complicated formula used in the Act covers too large an area and provides for a payout in the fifth year. This could be changed by the House in 10 minutes if the Government would bring in the Bill as it promised to do in the last Speech from the Throne. The stabilized fund now contains over $900 million, and the farmers need the money now. Their cash flow has seldom been worse. This hoarding of the farmers' money is aggravating and, worse still, the farmers are not even permitted to opt out and get their own money back.

Progressive Conservative Members of the House have urged the Government for months to provide a payout, but the Liberals have consistently refused. The Government has locked the farmers into the Act, refuses to let them opt out, and refuses to provide a payout. It almost seems as if the Government wants western farmers to go bankrupt.

The frustration and dissatisfaction of our farmers are so great that hundreds would opt out now if they could. I ask the Government to bring in the Western Grain Stabilization Act for amendment forthwith, and provide for a payout now. Yes, now!

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   AGRICULTURE
Sub-subtopic:   WESTERN GRAIN STABILIZATION ACT-DEMAND FOR AMENDMENT
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BILINGUALISM

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Mr. Pierre Gimai@

Mr. Speaker, I am rising to speak in the House today because, after spending a week in my riding, I found that one of the major concerns of the people of Lac-Saint-Jean, a riding that is one of the Francophone

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bastions of Canada, is what is happening in Manitoba, especially with respect to French language rights outside Quebec.

The point 1 wish to make, Mr. Speaker, is that it is high time the Leader of the Opposition clarified his Party's position once and for all. The Liberal Party of Canada which, over the years, has welcomed Canadians whatever their language, culture or race, is now asking the other major Party in the House, which claims to be the Party that might take over from the present Government, to do likewise. I wish they would stop telling Quebecers that their Party is open to the French fact and to official policies on bilingualism, because it is the same Party that convinced Manitobans their rights would be endangered if they were to give rights to Francophones! What the Conservatives of Manitoba have done is politically unacceptable, Mr. Speaker. The Leader of the Party should say so. He should discipline future candidates in his Party who supported the Provincial Conservatives in Manitoba, as well as members of his Party who, in the past, have taken a stand against this country's policies on bilingualism. If this is not done, Mr. Speaker, their Leader will have shown that he is not a man capable of holding the office of Prime Minister of Canada nor of leading his Party.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   BILINGUALISM
Sub-subtopic:   POSITION OF LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   BILINGUALISM
Sub-subtopic:   POSITION OF LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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THE LATE C. J. MACKENZIE

PC

Thomas Edward Siddon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Thomas Siddon (Richmond-South Delta):

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to pay belated respect to a great Canadian who passed away last week when the House was not sitting. C. J. Mackenzie enjoyed a long life-he was on this earth for 95 years. Yet when one reviews his numerous accomplishments, it is hard to believe that one person could have done so much in such a short time. He was one of the greatest forces in Canadian science. He was, among other things, the head of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited in its infant years, and later the President of the Atomic Energy Control Board. But Chalmers Jack Mackenzie will be most remembered as the head of the National Research Council during World War II and the late 1940s.

It was during this period that the NRC, and Canada in general, established an expertise in scientific research that brought our country a world-wide reputation and a range of economic and non-economic benefits that Canadians enjoy today and will for decades to come.

Canada owes a great deal to C. J. Mackenzie. It is only fitting that this House commend his memory today.

Oral Questions EXTERNAL AID

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LATE C. J. MACKENZIE
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March 7, 1984