October 14, 1983

PC

Robert Lloyd Wenman

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Robert Wenman (Fraser Valley West):

Madam Speaker, would the minister also tell the House what benefits will accrue to Canada by virtue of the presence on the same trip of an individual named Miss E. Mylrea, as well as Mr. Warren's executive assistant, especially in view of the fact that Mr. Warren and another person are using first-class seats for their trip to London, Zurich, Bern, and Paris, at a cost to the taxpayer of a cool $4,000 per ticket?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   COST OF TRAVELLING EXPENSES
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LIB

André Ouellet (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. Andre Ouellet (Minister of Labour):

Madam Speaker,

I think this is the kind of question that belongs on the Order Paper instead of being dealt with during oral question period. I must say I disapprove entirely of the Hon. Member's attitude and his assuming that some impropriety has taken place. It is typical of the Progressive Conservatives to indulge in mudslin-ging. I am sure that the President of Canada Post will be able to explain the reasons for his trip very satisfactorily, and quite probably, as soon as he comes back, he will be able to provide a satisfactory answer to the questions put by the Hon. Member, who would rather tarnish someone's reputation instead of asking a straight question.

Oral Questions

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   COST OF TRAVELLING EXPENSES
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LABOUR RELATIONS

PC

Howard Edward Crosby

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Howard Crosby (Halifax West):

Madam Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Labour. It concerns the management and labour dispute at Eastern Provincial Airways. The dispute with EPA pilots was settled in May, 1983, by a decision of the Canada Labour Relations Board which was recently quashed by the Federal Court, even though Labour Board decisions are final and conclusive.

What action can the Minister take to protect EPA pilots and to ensure a quick resolution of the dispute? Right now EPA is dismissing senior pilots and employing outside pilots in their place, which is contrary to the collective agreement endorsed by the Labour Relations Board. And of course it creates difficulties among pilots in the operation of aircraft.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LABOUR RELATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   EASTERN PROVINCIAL AIRWAYS DISPUTE-DISMISSAL OF PILOTS
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LIB

André Ouellet (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. Andre Ouellet (Minister of Labour):

Madam Speaker, I believe the Airline Pilots Association has now asked the Canada Labour Relations Board to be heard again on a series of complaints formulated by the Association. I have been informed that a hearing will be held as soon as possible, and meanwhile, it is up to the Board to rule on the new complaints submitted by the Pilots Association.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LABOUR RELATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   EASTERN PROVINCIAL AIRWAYS DISPUTE-DISMISSAL OF PILOTS
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PC

Howard Edward Crosby

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Crosby:

I merely want to point out to the Minister of Labour through you, Madam Speaker, that the whole purpose of labour laws in Canada is to ensure fair play and stability in labour relations, It is difficult to believe the Minister would be powerless in this situation when there is such provocation from management with respect to its employees.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LABOUR RELATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   EASTERN PROVINCIAL AIRWAYS DISPUTE-DISMISSAL OF PILOTS
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REQUEST FOR LEGISLATIVE ACTION

PC

Howard Edward Crosby

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Howard Crosby (Halifax West):

Madam Speaker, is the Minister considering any new laws or any changes in the laws which will preclude an organization like the Federal Court of Canada from stepping into a labour dispute which has been settled and completely destroying the work done by the Canada Labour Relations Board? Is he considering any action or provision that might be placed on the statute books to stop such action in the future?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR LEGISLATIVE ACTION
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LIB

André Ouellet (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. Andre Ouellet (Minister of Labour):

Madam Speaker, the Hon. Member is asking me to deny one of the parties the right to appeal a decision. I realize that he may be anxious to see this matter settled, and I share his feeling, but I think he should consider the wisdom of waiting until the Board reaches a decision and acknowledge the right of both parties to appeal the decision.

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Oral Questions

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR LEGISLATIVE ACTION
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CARRIER'S COMMITMENTS

PC

Thomas Michael McMillan (Deputy House Leader of the Official Opposition; Progressive Conservative Party Deputy House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Tom McMillan (Hillsborough):

Madam Speaker, my supplementary question is directed to the Minister of Labour. Given that EPA services have been disrupted because of the current labour-management dispute, has the Minister consulted his colleague, the Minister of Transport, to ensure that EPA is not using this labour dispute as an excuse to circumvent its firm commitments to the Atlantic Provinces as the regional carrier under federal charter?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CARRIER'S COMMITMENTS
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LIB

André Ouellet (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. Andre Ouellet (Minister of Labour):

Indeed, Madam Speaker, I have had discussions with my colleague the Minister of Transport about the EPA dispute, and I am satisfied that justice is being served in the current proceedings.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CARRIER'S COMMITMENTS
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PROVISION OF SERVICE TO ATLANTIC REGION

PC

Thomas Michael McMillan (Deputy House Leader of the Official Opposition; Progressive Conservative Party Deputy House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Tom McMillan (Hillsborough):

Madam Speaker, my supplementary question is directed to the Acting Prime Minister. Is it the position of the Government that it will not intervene in the EPA dispute, even if that dispute leads to permanent reductions in service throughout the Atlantic region, in contravention of the federal charter?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   PROVISION OF SERVICE TO ATLANTIC REGION
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LIB

André Ouellet (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. Andre Ouellet (Minister of Labour):

Madam Speaker, I think that the Hon. Member is jumping to a false conclusion. Through the Department of Labour, the Government did what it had to do in this case and, along with its mediation or conciliation services, it made available all facilities at its disposal with a view to reaching a settlement. When both sides claim that they have been wronged under the Canada Labour Code, they may appeal to the Canada Labour Relations Board, and that is exactly what they did. I would urge the Hon. Member to give free rein to the Canada Labour Relations Board which was established pursuant to an Act of Parliament adopted by all Hon. Members of the House.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   PROVISION OF SERVICE TO ATLANTIC REGION
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FISHERIES

NDP

James Ross Fulton

New Democratic Party

Mr. Jim Fulton (Skeena):

Madam Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans. I am sure he is aware that the Berger inquiry in 1978 evaluated years of biological and physical information, and concluded that there should be no industrial development on the North Slope of the Yukon. That was supported at that time by the Cabinet and the National Energy Board, including an Order in Council for the withdrawal of certain lands in the northern Yukon.

The Minister's Department is on record as vehemently opposing developments at King and Stokes Points because of seal-pupping grounds, and of both fresh and salt water spawning grounds for fish. First, does the Minister support his Department in opposing development of those two sites? Second, will he inform the Members of this House, and Canadians generally, whether he and his Cabinet colleagues believe that the recommendations of Mr. Justice Thomas Berger were false or wrong when they were made in 1978?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   EFFECT OF NORTHERN COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS
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LIB

Pierre De Bané (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans)

Liberal

Hon. Pierre De Bane (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans):

Madam Speaker, on the question of fish habitat generally on the Pacific Coast, I have now benefited from the most recent study of Dr. Pearse. On the question of fish habitat and how to offset the conservation of the renewable resource compared to other economic development on the Pacific Coast, I am happy to report to the Hon. Member that the Department in the very near future will be publishing a comprehensive policy concerning fish habitat which I hope will have the support of the Hon. Member.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   EFFECT OF NORTHERN COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS
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DEPARTMENTAL CONCERN

NDP

James Ross Fulton

New Democratic Party

Mr. Jim Fulton (Skeena):

Madam Speaker, obviously this is why the country is in trouble. I am talking about the Beaufort Sea. The Yukon borders on the Beaufort, not on the Pacific. My question is with regard to the opposition of his departmental officials to the development by Gulf of Stokes Point and by Kiewit and Sons of King Point, supported by Dome, Esso and others. On Monday of next week a project review group is going to make a decision on need regarding one of those two sites. Will the Minister make a commitment that he will raise this matter with his Cabinet colleagues, educate them on the fact that his Department at least is opposed to these two sites, and assure all Canadians that, if one of those sites is to be developed, there will be an Order in Council and we will not see the kind of frivolous land use permit that is being proposed by his colleague, the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENTAL CONCERN
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October 14, 1983