May 6, 1983

STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21

HOUSING

LIB

Gaston Gourde

Liberal

Mr. Gaston Gourde (Levis):

Madam Speaker, in the latest budget, rules governing the use of Registered Home Ownership Savings Plans were changed. Not long ago, I pointed out that Canadian taxpayers will now be able to make tax-free withdrawals of any amount currently in their RHOSPs, for the purchase of furniture and household appliances. Another change is that Canadians who buy newly constructed homes after the date of the budget and before December 31, 1984, will be able to claim an additional deduction of up to $10,000. This means that if the taxpayer has contributed $3,000 to a RHOSP in previous years, he or she will be able to claim an additional deduction of $7,000 for the purchase of a newly constructed home, within the dates mentioned. The proceeds of the RHOSP must, of course, be used for the purchase of a newly constructed home and associated furnishings. Individuals must complete a written offer to purchase the home before December 31, 1984, with the date of closing of the purchase and occupancy no later than February 28, 1985. Homes for which a purchase agreement was entered into prior to April 20, 1983 will be eligible for the measure if the offer to purchase was signed prior to that date, provided the date of closing was not before that date.

I think that with the recent news about the Canadian Home Ownership Stimulation Plan, this measure provides a very satisfactory alternative to that program, as a substitute for the $3,000 offered to buyers of new homes.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   HOUSING
Sub-subtopic:   BENEFITS RELATED TO APPLICATION OF REGISTERED HOME OWNERSHIP SAVINGS PLAN
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FISHERIES

PC

Lloyd Roseville Crouse

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Lloyd R. Crouse (South Shore):

Madam Speaker, for the past two years or more the East Coast fishing industry has been in the economic doldrums. This is an industry that is vital to more than 1,300 communities, over half of which depend

solely on fishing activities. It is the largest non-governmental employer in Atlantic Canada and Quebec, providing more jobs in absolute figures than does the automobile industry of Ontario.

In view of its importance to the nation, the Government established the Kirby Task Force to study the problems. Perhaps for the first time, fishermen, the unions, and processors realize that their adversaries are their competitors outside Canada. Americans are buying fresh cod delivered by air on a daily basis from Iceland, and Steinberg of Ottawa is selling frozen cod fish in one pound packages clearly marked as a product of the U.S.A. Obviously we are not only losing our foreign markets but our Canadian markets as well, and the key to our problem is quality.

New regulations call for all boats over 45 feet to carry ice, but this requirement has not been met. Bleeding and gutting as well as dockside grading are still local options. Fish holds should be upgraded to basic standards. Kirby also recommended additional ice-making facilities in coastal communities, but to date, this basic need has not been met.

Until we upgrade our quality, the improving fish markets of the world will be supplied by Iceland or Norway, or even by the United States. Therefore I urge the Minister and the Government to give a much higher priority to the basic needs of Canada's fishing industry.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   STATE OF EAST COAST INDUSTRY-COMPETITION FROM IMPORTS
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AGRICULTURE

NDP

Terence James (Terry) Sargeant

New Democratic Party

Mr. Terry Sargeant (Selkirk-Interlake):

Madam Speaker, it has been more than a year since Econ Consulting Limited of Winnipeg went bankrupt, leaving more than 300 prairie farmers out of pocket some $4 million. At the time of the bankruptcy in April 1982, the Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Whelan) refused to take the Canadian Grain Commission to task for the way in which it allowed Econ's directors to escape annual audits. He refused a similar request when it came to him from the National Farmers' Union.

As the Minister knows, 77 farmers have now launched a suit against the Canadian Grain Commission over the Econ bankruptcy. They are seeking the reimbursement of at least some of the money they lost when the company went bankrupt. Just a few weeks ago the Canadian Grain Commission's lawyers sought a stay of action in this suit. The judge hearing this case in Winnipeg has not yet ruled on the motion.

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The universe is unfolding as it usually does when farmers in this country are being trampled upon. Thanks to the Canadian Grain Commission's lawyers, the lawsuit is stalled in the courts and western farmers affected by the collapse of Econ Consulting have still not been compensated for their losses.

When the NFU wrote to the Minister of Agriculture to ask for a public inquiry into the bankruptcy, the Minister wrote back to them saying that his Department had hired a consulting accounting firm to make recommendations about the Canadian Grain Commission's procedures. Has that consulting firm handed down its report yet, or was this pricey firm hired as a smokescreen?

We in the New Democratic Party have not forgotten about the Econ bankruptcy. We are watching and waiting to see what the Minister does to ensure that this will not happen

again.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   AGRICULTURE
Sub-subtopic:   CONSEQUENCES OF ECON BANKRUPTCY FOR PRAIRIE FARMERS
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PAPAL VISIT TO CANADA

PC

Douglas Roche

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Douglas Roche (Edmonton South):

Madam Speaker, the ten-day visit of Pope John Paul II to Canada in September, 1984, will be an historic occasion, the first time that a Pope has come to this country where the Christian faith was planted so deeply more than 350 years ago.

It will not just be Catholics who will welcome Pope John Paul II. All Canadians of good will who recognize the Pope as a tireless promoter of peace and social justice throughout the world will rejoice to have him here.

When he spoke to the United Nations on October 2, 1979, Pope John Paul II said:

The Catholic Church in every place on earth proclaims a message of peace, prays for peace, educates for peace.

No issue before this Parliament, before any religious assembly, before the entire world, is more important today than securing peace through, first of all, ending the nuclear arms race. Canada must play a stronger role in the world community now searching for peace. Therefore I commend this vital theme of peace to the Pastoral Planning Committee organizing the Papal visit.

On behalf of the people of my own City of Edmonton, I also express the fervent wish that Pope John Paul include Edmonton in his cross-Canada itinerary.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   PAPAL VISIT TO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   PLEA FOR WORLD PEACE
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FISHERIES

PC

Dave Nickerson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Dave Nickerson (Western Arctic):

Madam Speaker, in 1969 when the Government of Canada arrogated unto itself the exclusive monopoly on sales for freshwater fish in western and northern Canada, fishermen found that the Crown monopoly, the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, was like a lobster trap. They were easily lured into it, but it was impossible to escape.

Despite subsidies from territorial and provincial Governments, the real return to fishermen has continued to decline since independent fish buyers were put out of business by the Government. What was once a thriving industry is now on the verge of collapse. The return to fishermen as a percentage of the final selling price is being reduced to a completely unacceptable level because of the inefficiency and ineffectiveness of the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation.

Top quality Canadian whitefish, trout, and other species, should command premium prices on domestic and international markets, and fishermen should enjoy a high standard of living as a result of their labours. This will not happen until the fishery can be reorganized along free market principles and the stultifying bureaucratic monopoly of the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation consigned to the garbage can of history.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   CALL FOR ABOLITION OF FRESHWATER FISH MARKETING CORPORATION
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GOVERNMENT ADVERTISING

NDP

Laverne Lewycky

New Democratic Party

Mr. Laverne Lewycky (Dauphin):

Madam Speaker, on April 18 the Minister of Finance (Mr. Lalonde) rather curtly replied to my question. He endorsed the wasteful attitude of the Minister of Transport (Mr. Pepin) to Government advertising on Crow rate changes. The Government's waste of taxpayers' dollars is even more blatant in view of the fact that the Minister of Transport has made changes in that the material, which he told the people of Canada is out of date.

What do we have? We have a beautiful blue Tory and red Liberal flier, costing the taxpayers some $350,000. I question the morality of the Government advertising matters which have not become legislation, and the changes it is making in this area. I encourage Liberal backbenchers to rise up in moral indignation at the fact that we have moral pygmies in the front benches, like the Minister of Transport, making these kinds of blatant decisions concerning taxpayers' dollars. What will the Minister of Transport do now? Will he indulge in further advertising, further fliers across Canada to explain why he has made changes to his initial proposals? Will this cost Canadian taxpayers more money? As the Hon. Member for Yorkton-Melville (Mr. Nystrom) mentioned on April 15, the Liberal

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Party should reimburse the federal coffers or the taxpayers by paying-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT ADVERTISING
Sub-subtopic:   CONDEMNATION OF CAMPAIGN SUPPORTING CHANGES TO CROWSNEST PASS RATE
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LIB

Jeanne Sauvé (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Madam Speaker:

Order, please.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   GOVERNMENT ADVERTISING
Sub-subtopic:   CONDEMNATION OF CAMPAIGN SUPPORTING CHANGES TO CROWSNEST PASS RATE
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FITNESS AND AMATEUR SPORT

PC

Joseph Lloyd Reid

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Joe Reid (St. Catharines):

Madam Speaker, the phrase "from sea to sea" will soon take on a new meaning for Kan-chan Stott of Ottawa. Kanchan starts her cross-Canada run from Victoria, British Columbia, today. When she reaches Halifax in October she will have established the longest distance ever run by a women. It is a run of epic proportions, but as well it is a feat which demonstrates the ever-growing contribution of women to sport and fitness in Canada. By this time next week, Kanchan anticipates she will have run 300 miles. We might keep that figure in mind as we contemplate what physical endeavours we should undertake for National Physical Activity Week.

Few Canadians are blessed with the requisite attributes and abilities of Kanchan to be champion marathoners, swimmers, or whatever. That is a fact of life for us to live with and should not deter anyone in the least from trying to improve their physical well being. No one has to earn a gold medal to become healthier or fitter; we just have to make physical activity a part of our daily routine.

Physical Activity Week is designed to encourage and challenge Canadians to put physical activity on their agenda. I hope Canadians take up that challenge and win their own personal awards.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   FITNESS AND AMATEUR SPORT
Sub-subtopic:   START OF WOMAN'S CROSS-CANADA RUN
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ORAL QUESTION PERIOD

LABOUR CONDITIONS

PC

James Aloysius McGrath

Progressive Conservative

Hon. James A. McGrath (St. John's East):

Madam Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Employment and Immigration. The unemployment figures released today by Statistics Canada show there is no appreciable change in the unemployment rate. Indeed, they represent a net increase when you consider the fact that unemployment is supposed to be improving at this time of the year.

We note that the number of unemployed heads of families is up 31.7 per cent from a year ago, and has doubled in the past two years. The number of unemployed women is up 23.2 per cent from a year ago. The number of long-term unemployed

Oral Questions

youths is up 21.8 per cent from a year ago. We have fewer young people working in Canada today than ten years ago.

The unemployment rate today stands at 12.5 per cent. Is it the policy of the Government to gear its training programs, its employment programs and its job-incentive programs to double digit unemployment, or does the Govermment intend to bring in programs targeted to unemployed youth, and unemployed women, the first to be fired and the last to be re-hired in economic recovery?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS-GOVERNMENT TRAINING PROGRAMS
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LIB

Lloyd Axworthy (Minister of Employment and Immigration)

Liberal

Hon. Lloyd Axworthy (Minister of Employment and Immigration):

Madam Speaker, it is very unfortunate that the Hon. Member has tried to present the figures which came out this morning, in the darkest possible hue, when in fact these unemployment figures demonstrate that there is a substantial turnaround in the economy. If he would look at the figures in the proper perspective he would see that, since November, we have created over 135,000 new jobs. As far as the employment of women is concerned, in the last month alone 55,000 jobs were created for women in Canada, which is the highest level in the last five years.

What I believe Canadians are looking for now is a sign that things are beginning to turn around, and the signs to that effect are there now. What we must do as a Government, what we are trying to do, is build upon that recovery and not try to bring about the wailing and yelling which the Hon. Member is doing. Canadians do not want that doom and gloom. They want to see how we can take those signs of recovery, accelerate them as we did through the budget, and make the best of that new growth which is beginning to appear.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS-GOVERNMENT TRAINING PROGRAMS
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May 6, 1983