February 23, 1983

STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21

EXTERNAL AFFAIRS

LIB

Stanley Hudecki (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Stanley Hudecki (Hamilton West):

Madam Speaker, on the occasion of the 11th Baltic evening, recently sponsored by the Baltic Federation in Canada representing the Estonian Central Council in Canada, the Latvian National Federation in Canada, and the Lithuanian Canadian community, the Hon. Member for Nepean-Carleton (Mr. Baker) brought to the attention of the House, under the provisions of Standing Order 21, certain irregularities in dealing with the accreditation of Baltic Consuls by the Government of Canada.

These Baltic Federations represent loyal Canadians who have selected Canada as the land of their destiny. They have made significant contributions to the arts and culture of this country. They have added to the ranks of our professionals in the fields of engineering and medicine. They are loyal citizens, conscious of their responsibility to this country, and have responded to this responsibility with dedication and zeal.

I would like to add my concern that two members of the Baltic Federation, the Latvians and the Estonians, unlike the Lithuanians, have not been accorded an accredited status for their consuls. Giving accredited status to these Consuls would show Canada's appreciation for the role that the peoples of Baltic origin have played and are playing in the development and promotion of the homeland of their choice, Canada, and it would serve as a useful link with citizens in the land of their origin. I therefore would urge the Government to grant accredited status to a Latvian and Estonian Consul.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   SUGGESTED ACCREDITATION OF LATVIAN AND ESTONIAN HONORARY CONSULS
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FINANCE

PC

Elmer MacIntosh MacKay

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Elmer M. MacKay (Central Nova):

Madam Speaker, on April 21, 1982, there was a meeting in Toronto organized by the Deputy Prime Minister (Mr. MacEachen), the then Minister of Finance, and three Toronto Ministers. The invited guests were 14 businessmen. The Globe and Mail of April 22,

1982, reported that 13 out of the 14 businessmen rejected the MacEachen theory about wage and price controls.

Alastair Gillespie was one of the 14 businessmen who claimed to The Globe and Mail that Mr. MacEachen received a "resounding vote of confidence" from the businessmen. The Globe and Mail of April 24, 1982, reported that Robert Owen, President of the Toronto Real Estate Board, "... disagreed with Alastair Gillespie . . . that the businessmen gave Mr. MacEachen a resounding vote of confidence." The Globe and Mail of May 13, 1982, reported that John S. Dewar, Chairman of Union Carbide, denied that there was support for Mr. MacEachen's policies at that meeting. The Globe and Mail of July 10, 1982, reported that only one favoured MacEachen's policies.

Under the circumstances, Madam Speaker, one can easily ask was the Gillespie endorsement of the Minister's economic policies, as well as his false claim of universal endorsement by businessmen, a quid pro quo for the Deputy Prime Minister's endorsement of Mr. Gillespie's lucrative participation in the Scotia Coal Synfuels project? And is there any connection between Mr. Gillespie's enthusiasm for the Minister's ill-fated economic policies and the subsequent decision by the Government to proceed with further re-evaluation of financing of the Gillespie consortium?

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   ENDORSEMENT OF FORMER MINISTER'S POLICIES BY ALASTAIR GILLESPIE
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THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION

LIB

Gilbert Parent (Liberal Party Caucus Chair)

Liberal

Mr. Gilbert A. Parent (Welland):

Madam Speaker, as the Member of Parliament for Welland and as Chairman of the National Liberal Caucus, I wish to state that the National Liberal Caucus deplores the allegations and insinuations about Cabinet Members made by the Opposition Parties during recent Question Periods in the House of Commons.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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Some Hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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LIB

Gilbert Parent (Liberal Party Caucus Chair)

Liberal

Mr. Parent:

The Caucus is particularly disturbed by the fanaticism of the Conservative Party interim Leader, Mr. Erik Nielsen, who, since his election-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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Some Hon. Members:

Order!

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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LIB

Gilbert Parent (Liberal Party Caucus Chair)

Liberal

Mr. Parent:

-to the House in 1957 has consistently resorted to character assassination as his only means of attacking the Liberals. The Caucus feels that Mr. Nielsen and those who follow-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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Some Hon. Members:

Order!

February 23, 1983

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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LIB

Gilbert Parent (Liberal Party Caucus Chair)

Liberal

Mr. Parent:

-his example should realize that when they try to score-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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LIB

Jeanne Sauvé (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Madam Speaker:

I believe the Hon. Member does know that he must refer to Hon. Members by their constituencies.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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LIB

Gilbert Parent (Liberal Party Caucus Chair)

Liberal

Mr. Parent:

I thank you for the correction, Madam Speaker. The Caucus feels that the Hon. Member for Yukon (Mr. Nielsen), and those who follow his example, should realize that when they try to score political points at any price, especially at the price of character assassination, they discredit the entire parliamentary institution in the process. The National Liberal Caucus wishes to note that, despite some encouraging signs, such as lowering inflation and interest rates, the economic situation remains a serious problem. MPs from all Parties would be well advised to devote their energies to finding solutions to the problems which are affecting Canadians in their daily lives.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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Some Hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
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THE DISABLED AND THE HANDICAPPED

PC

Thomas Scott Fennell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Scott Fennell (Ontario):

Madam Speaker, in my opinion the handicapped are ill treated. For the past two years 1 have made numerous representations to the Government on behalf of the disabled persons of Canada. Today I make one further public representation to the Minister of Finance (Mr. Lalonde), asking him to review the position of the disabled with regard to the Income Tax Act. In particular, I would like the Government to include provisions in the next budget which would offset the additional costs incurred by the working disabled by such things as equipment and clothing, and transportation to unserviced industrialized areas.

I am aware that recommendation 46 of "Obstacles" is currently under consideration. I urge the Government to include this recommendation in the next budget because I believe that it will improve the tenuous position of the partially disabled. The present legislation is so narrow in its interpretation that it openly discriminates against handicapped people, many of whom are members of the work force. These people contribute to society through their taxes and are not dependent on society to keep them.

We have a chance to atone for our past neglect. We have a chance in the next budget to lighten the daily burden carried by the disabled. I, therefore, encourage the Minister of Finance to put forth some practical legislation to overcome the key obstacles faced by disabled persons.

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   THE DISABLED AND THE HANDICAPPED
Sub-subtopic:   CALL FOR TAX RELIEF
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ATOMIC ENERGY OF CANADA LIMITED

NDP

Mark Willson Rose (N.D.P. Caucus Chair)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Mark Rose (Mission-Port Moody):

Madam Speaker, yesterday the President of the Liberal Party came out against Cruise missile testing in Canada by saying that it was only "the thin edge of the wedge". My statement deals with another thin edge which we have in the American nuclear weapons program, the buying and selling of enriched uranium between Atomic Energy of Canada and two nuclear weapons refineries in the U.S.A.

AECL's Chalk River laboratory is buying weapons-grade-enriched uranium from the U.S. Department of Energy's nuclear weapons refinery at Oak Ridge, Tennessee. When Chalk River is finished with this enriched fuel, it is sold and delivered to the Savannah River weapons reprocessing plant in South Carolina. AECL has no contractual obligation to sell and deliver this incredibly toxic irradiated fuel back into the U.S. weapons program.

In 1980 Canada signed a protocol with the United States under which the use of Canadian nuclear materials in the U.S. military program is forbidden, but Canada has continued to sell this material to the U.S. military.

Three U.S. States and approximately 40 U.S. municipalities have passed regulations to prevent AECL from shipping this irradiated poison through their areas, because a ten-second direct exposure to this material is lethal. Rather than listening to these people, AECL's shipper is fighting these regulations in the U.S. courts so that we can continue to sell Canadian uranium to the U.S. weapons program.

On behalf of the NDP and Canadians who do not want to be involved in the U.S. nuclear weapons cycle, I call upon the Government-

Topic:   STATEMENTS PURSUANT TO S.O. 21
Subtopic:   ATOMIC ENERGY OF CANADA LIMITED
Sub-subtopic:   TRADE IN ENRICHED URANIUM WITH UNITED STATES WEAPONS PLANT
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February 23, 1983