May 19, 1982

PAYMENT OF TAX BY DISTRIBUTORS

PC

Thomas Gordon Towers

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gordon Towers (Red Deer):

Madam Speaker, the distributors of this gas have to pay the tax even prior to collecting it. This means that the distributors have to borrow the money in order to pay the tax to the Department of Revenue. The Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources said in committee last night that he is prepared to look at that and perhaps give the distributors at least 90 days in which to collect and pay the tax to the Department of Revenue rather than having to do it within 30 days. Would the Minister of Finance at least go that far?

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LIB

Allan Joseph MacEachen (Deputy Prime Minister; Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Hon. Allan J. MacEachen (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance):

Madam Speaker, yes, I will agree to look at the matter as the Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources undertook before the committee.

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Subtopic:   PAYMENT OF TAX BY DISTRIBUTORS
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MULTICULTURALISM

PC

Steve Eugene Paproski

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Steven E. Paproski (Edmonton North):

Madam Speaker, I would like to bring to the attention of the Minister of State for Multiculturalism remarks made in a speech delivered on April 23 to a federally sponsored conference on racism in Vancouver. It was delivered by Israel Ludwig, a Winnipeg lawyer and government appointed chairman of the

May 19, 1982

Oral Questions

Race Relations Committee of the Canadian Consultative Council on Multiculturalism.

Incredibly Ludwig urged that Christmas, Good Friday, and other religious holidays be abolished in order to combat racism. He urged the government to monitor the news media, and demanded that the CRTC have the power to revoke licences of radio or television stations that give prominence, where prominence is not justified, to racist groups. He urged a similar body to monitor the press. He alleged that the press gives coverage to racist groups in order to sell their newspapers. An admission of unacceptable government interference in the freedom of the press emerged from his remarks. I would ask the minister if he plans to remove Mr. Ludwig from the Canadian Consultative Council on Multiculturalism because of his statements.

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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LIB

James Sydney Clark Fleming (Minister of State (Multiculturalism))

Liberal

Hon. Jim Fleming (Minister of State (Multiculturalism)):

Madam Speaker, no, I do not intend to remove someone for expressing his views. I believe that this country belives in the freedom of expression.

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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PC

Arthur Ronald Huntington (Progressive Conservative Party Caucus Chair)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Huntington:

What about metric?

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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PC

John Carnell Crosbie

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Crosbie:

What about Fraser?

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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LIB

James Sydney Clark Fleming (Minister of State (Multiculturalism))

Liberal

Mr. Fleming:

1 think that if the hon. member would read the full text of the speech he would have a better understanding of the suggestions of Mr. Ludwig. For instance, he did not suggest for a moment the abolishing of Christmas; he suggested that some consideration might be given to honouring the high or holy holidays of non-Christians who are as Canadian as the Christian population of this country.

The hon. member should also be aware, if he reads his newspapers, that 1 said following Mr. Ludwig's speech that 1 differ considerably with some of the points which he put forward but I certainly do not argue with his right to express his views.

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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PC

Steve Eugene Paproski

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Paproski:

I guess you mean that Neil Fraser is an example for freedom of speech after being fired.

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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LIB

Jeanne Sauvé (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Madam Speaker:

Order. May I point out that that has nothing to do with the question that was just asked?

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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PC

Steve Eugene Paproski

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Paproski:

I do feel it is a worth-while comment.

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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LIB

Jeanne Sauvé (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Madam Speaker:

Order.

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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PC

Steve Eugene Paproski

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Paproski:

Madam Speaker, I do feel I have the freedom of speech to make a comment-

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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LIB

Jeanne Sauvé (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Madam Speaker:

Order. That is precisely what 1 was saying. I do not think it is time to make comments. It is time for question period. I will recognize the hon. member for Edmonton North for that purpose.

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Subtopic:   MULTICULTURALISM
Sub-subtopic:   SPEECH MADE BY CHAIRMAN OF RACE RELATIONS COMMITTEE
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MINISTER'S UNDERSTANDING OF MULTICULTURALISM

PC

Steve Eugene Paproski

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Steven E. Paproski (Edmonton North):

Madam Speaker, I have a brief supplementary. Mr. Ludwig seems to think that multiculturalism means ruthless suppression of the traditions of freedom of the majority. I hope that this is not the way the minister understands multiculturalism.

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Subtopic:   MINISTER'S UNDERSTANDING OF MULTICULTURALISM
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LIB

James Sydney Clark Fleming (Minister of State (Multiculturalism))

Liberal

Hon. Jim Fleming (Minister of State (Multiculturalism)):

Madam Speaker, 1 think the hon. member is putting too many peppers in his pirogis.

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Subtopic:   MINISTER'S UNDERSTANDING OF MULTICULTURALISM
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh! Racist!

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LIB

James Sydney Clark Fleming (Minister of State (Multiculturalism))

Liberal

Mr. Fleming:

Madam Speaker, I would love to arrange, if I could, a meeting with Mr. Ludwig and the hon. member because I think he would find him an interesting Canadian with some interesting ideas. I agree with some of the proposals in that speech. Some of them I do not agree with.

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Subtopic:   MINISTER'S UNDERSTANDING OF MULTICULTURALISM
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May 19, 1982