June 1, 1981

LIB

Marc Lalonde (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. Lalonde:

Last year; last July. That is what I said. As far as this year is concerned, if I were to listen to the official opposition, we would have even higher inflation rates-

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Subtopic:   POSSIBLE CHANGE IN TAXATION
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?

Some hon. Members:

No.

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LIB

Marc Lalonde (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. Lalonde:

-because what these gentlemen and ladies in the Conservative party are recommending is higher prices to the consumer than are in evidence at the present time. This is what we, on this side, have been fighting against. We have been trying to get an arrangement so as to continue protecting the Canadian consumer while providing adequate returns to the industry.

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Subtopic:   POSSIBLE CHANGE IN TAXATION
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PC

Harvie Andre

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Andre:

How do you justify the PetroCan tax?

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LIB

Marc Lalonde (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. Lalonde:

As far as the last point raised by the hon. member is concerned, I have had an opportunity to discuss this issue with him. He knows that the situation is not as simple as he wants to make it appear, and as a consequence I do not intend to make changes to the present policy.

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STATUS OF WOMEN

NDP

Pauline Jewett

New Democratic Party

Miss Pauline Jewett (New Westminster-Coquitlam):

Madam Speaker, moving on to the Minister of Employment and Immigration, who is also the minister responsible for the status of women, can he now confirm that he fully supports mandatory affirmative action employment programs for women and other disadvantaged groups, including contract compliance? When will the minister recommend to cabinet the immediate implementation of them?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   STATUS OF WOMEN
Sub-subtopic:   MANDATORY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAMS- GOVERNMENT POSITION
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LIB

Lloyd Axworthy (Minister responsible for the Status of Women; Minister of Employment and Immigration)

Liberal

Hon. Lloyd Axworthy (Minister of Employment and Immigration):

Madam Speaker, I have indicated all along that we are prepared to take a wide variety of measures to improve substantially the equality of women in the work place. We have introduced a number of them during the past year, including new training programs, an affirmative action program in the public service, as well as the opening of new counselling centres. I have indicated that we are hoping to present in Parliament, in a matter of two or three weeks, a wide variety of recommendations and proposals dealing with changes in the labour and employment market in Canada, which will include a number of measures which will substantially benefit the working women in this country. I would ask the hon. member to restrain her impatience and see those recommendations in total so that we can have an entire strategy instead of just one or two measures.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   STATUS OF WOMEN
Sub-subtopic:   MANDATORY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAMS- GOVERNMENT POSITION
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PC

Flora Isabel MacDonald

Progressive Conservative

Miss MacDonald:

You always say that to women.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   STATUS OF WOMEN
Sub-subtopic:   MANDATORY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAMS- GOVERNMENT POSITION
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VOLUNTARY VERSUS MANDATORY PROGRAMS

NDP

Pauline Jewett

New Democratic Party

Miss Pauline Jewett (New Westminster-Coquitlam):

Madam Speaker, that is a most disappointing answer, particularly in light of the letter I received from the minister on Friday which said that he would be approaching cabinet soon with a proposal respecting mandatory affirmative action, which is what my question was all about, not these other vague programs.

A recent document prepared for cabinet by the minister has also just come to my attention which states that what the minister is calling for is not mandatory action but voluntary action, voluntary affirmative action and voluntary contract compliance in the private sector. A memorandum last year dated May 21, 1980, from the minister's own department stated:

-four years of experience with a voluntary federal contracts program produced no results.

Why is the minister reversing himself?

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LIB

Lloyd Axworthy (Minister responsible for the Status of Women; Minister of Employment and Immigration)

Liberal

Hon. Lloyd Axworthy (Minister of Employment and Immigration):

Madam Speaker, the hon. member is becoming convoluted in the wealth of her own speculations. I simply suggest to her that the commitment of this government to improve substantially the place of women and the equality of women in the work place is one which is well recognized. We will continue that commitment. We will have a number of recommendations that she, her colleagues, and many other people in this country might, and I hope will, support.

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MINISTER'S SUBMISSIONS TO CABINET

NDP

Pauline Jewett

New Democratic Party

Miss Pauline Jewett (New Westminster-Coquitlam):

The

minister has totally reversed himself from May of last year to just the other day, as this document which was leaked to us shows. Finally, I ask the minister whether he will reconsider the key to providing greater equality in the work place, which is mandatory affirmative action and mandatory contract compliance? Will he consider taking this diluted document, throwing it out, replacing it with the one he prepared only a year ago, and presenting that to cabinet?

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LIB

Lloyd Axworthy (Minister responsible for the Status of Women; Minister of Employment and Immigration)

Liberal

Hon. Lloyd Axworthy (Minister of Employment and Immigration):

Madam Speaker, I want to caution the hon. member to place very little confidence in leaked documents that come by way of brown paper bags from moles they have inside some parts of the public service. The fact is that we are considering a wide variety of recommendations. As soon as they are completed, finalized and presented where all members of Parliament will see them, we can get into an honest debate.

June 1, 1981

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RESTRICTIVE TRADE PRACTICES

PC

Chris Speyer

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Chris Speyer (Cambridge):

My question is directed to the Minister of Justice. It arises out of an answer given by the Prime Minister last Friday when asked by the hon. member for York-Peel when the gag regulations were going to be rescinded. The Prime Minister at that time said:

There are still some cases before the courts now, some Canadian citizens and some Canadian corporations are still sought after by American law. We will protect them as long as is necessary,-

Can the minister specify what Canadian companies or individuals are involved in litigation in the United States? What are the projections for termination of that litigation and, consequently, when are these gag regulations going to be removed so that Canadians can understand the facts of this sordid mess?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   RESTRICTIVE TRADE PRACTICES
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN COMPANIES INVOLVED IN LITIGATION IN UNITED STATES
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LIB

Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada; Minister of State for Social Development)

Liberal

Hon. Jean Chretien (Minister of Justice and Minister of State for Social Development):

Madam Speaker, I do not have anything to add to the answer given by the Prime Minister last week. The hon. member is asking for a very precise answer which I do not have at this moment. I do not know if I can make it public. The Prime Minister stated the government's policy on Friday. We have to protect Canadian interests with regard to actions carried out in Canada and not according to the laws of other nations. We must ensure that the laws which control Canadian industries and citizens are Canadian laws, not American.

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Subtopic:   RESTRICTIVE TRADE PRACTICES
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN COMPANIES INVOLVED IN LITIGATION IN UNITED STATES
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REASONS FOR GOVERNMENT ACTION

PC

Chris Speyer

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Chris Speyer (Cambridge):

Madam Speaker, I am surprised that the Minister of Justice does not know what litigation is in progess now because it is the underpinning upon which the Prime Minister says he is maintaining these gag regulations.

Why is the government protecting and sheltering Canadian companies potentially in violation of American price fixing laws? If the shoe were on the other foot and American companies were being protected by an American government, would this government not be complaining and screaming?

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June 1, 1981