December 4, 1979

LIB

Denis Éthier

Liberal

Mr. Denis Ethier (Glengarry-Prescott-Russell):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the right hon. Prime Minister. In his answer to a previous question, he mentioned that he would rather celebrate something with Ontario wine than with champagne. 1 would say that the district I represent would rather celebrate with milk than anything else.

In view of the promises he made during the May 22 election campaign, that he would in fact reduce cheese imports by 10 million to 15 million pounds, would the Prime Minister tell this House very clearly that in fact he did mislead the Canadian public during the last election campaign?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   PROMISED REDUCTION IN CHEESE IMPORTS-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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PC

John Wise (Minister of Agriculture)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. John Wise (Minister of Agriculture):

Mr. Speaker, I want to respond to that question because it rests squarely within my jurisdiction. The hon. member should be aware of the fact that one of the terms of the MTN was, in fact, that

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the cheese import level at 45 million pounds would, indeed, remain in place. The MTN agreement indicated that the present level of 45 million pounds would have to remain in place. We recognize the importance of the MTN agreement, and we recognize as well that we have to abide by it. But there is an up side-

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   PROMISED REDUCTION IN CHEESE IMPORTS-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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An hon. Member:

That's not what Joe said.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   PROMISED REDUCTION IN CHEESE IMPORTS-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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PC

John Wise (Minister of Agriculture)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Wise:

That is what I have said, and I am sure the Prime Minister has said the same thing. There is an up side in that, and that is that we will have available to us in the EEC, primarily in the U.K., a market opportunity to the extent of 6.1 million pounds.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   PROMISED REDUCTION IN CHEESE IMPORTS-GOVERNMENT POSITION
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REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION

LIB

Marcel Lessard

Liberal

Hon. Marcel Lessard (Lac-Saint-Jean):

Mr. Speaker, it seems we are celebrating a special event today. Therefore 1 should like to ask the Minister of Regional Economic Expansion whether, when reviewing the policy of his department he intends to hand over to the agriculture department the administration of the Prairie Farm Rehabilitation Act, better known as PFRA.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST THAT DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE ADMINISTER PFRA
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PC

Elmer MacIntosh MacKay (Minister of Regional Economic Expansion; Progressive Conservative Party Caucus Chair)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Elmer M. MacKay (Minister of Regional Economic Expansion):

Mr. Speaker, I want to tell my colleague that we hope to have a subcommittee of the Committee on Regional Development look into various aspects of the PFRA with a view to strengthening it and seeing how it can be improved. Implicit in the terms of reference may be a consideration of the particular proposition the hon. member puts forward. I can honestly say at this point that this has not been decided, and it has not really been seriously considered as yet.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST THAT DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE ADMINISTER PFRA
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HEALTH AND WELFARE

INQUIRY WHEN PRIME MINISTER INTENDS TO CALL

LIB

Monique Bégin

Liberal

Hon. Monique Begin (Saint-Leonard-Anjou):

Mr. Speaker, now that we are celebrating the sixth month in office of the new government, I should like to put a question to the Prime Minister who is responsible for medicare. Naturally, in that regard, his election promises were really very meagre, and he gave us a foretaste of his manner of governing by intermediaries, committees, studies, subcommittees, and so on, by promising, on April 30, a national health conference on medicare to which representatives of the provincial and federal govern-

Oral Questions

ments and the medical profession would be invited. When does the Prime Minister intend to hold that conference?

Topic:   HEALTH AND WELFARE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHEN PRIME MINISTER INTENDS TO CALL
Sub-subtopic:   CONFERENCE OF PROVINCES AND DOCTORS ON MEDICARE
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PC

Charles Joseph Clark (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. Joe Clark (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, 1 very much appreciate the question of the former minister. As the hon. member already knows, the provincial health ministers have already had a meeting with the federal Minister of National Health and Welfare to discuss medicare. That is what 1 was speaking about in the words the hon. member quoted. I believe a conference will be held later to deal with health insurance matters.

Topic:   HEALTH AND WELFARE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHEN PRIME MINISTER INTENDS TO CALL
Sub-subtopic:   CONFERENCE OF PROVINCES AND DOCTORS ON MEDICARE
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HALL COMMISSION-INQUIRY AS TO BUDGET AND COMPOSITION OF STAFF

LIB

Monique Bégin

Liberal

Hon. Monique Begin (Saint-Leonard-Anjou):

Mr. Speaker, to spare the right hon. Prime Minister further embarrassment, my supplementary will be addressed to the Minister of National Health and Welfare. The right hon. Prime Minister mentioned the mini-meeting, somewhat akin to an afternoon cocktail party that was held in September with the provincial health minister and which gave birth to the so-called Hall Commission on Health. Can the minister tell us the budget of the commission, and how many staff it has?

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Topic:   HALL COMMISSION-INQUIRY AS TO BUDGET AND COMPOSITION OF STAFF
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PC

David Edward Crombie (Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. David Crombie (Minister of National Health and Welfare):

Mr. Speaker, I can provide for the hon. member the actual figures of the budget which has been laid out for the review. The staffing is being done by Mr. Justice Emmett Hall, in consultation with our department. We have provided Mr. Justice Hall with some staff under secondment from our own complement and he is providing some of his own staff. I can provide the hon. member with the actual figures and numbers.

Topic:   HALL COMMISSION-INQUIRY AS TO BUDGET AND COMPOSITION OF STAFF
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FISHERIES

FUTURE OF FRESHWATER FISH MARKETING CORPORATION

NDP

Terence James (Terry) Sargeant

New Democratic Party

Mr. Terry Sargeant (Selkirk-Interlake):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans. Today, the minister and some of his provincial counterparts met on the question of the future of the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation. Recently, the government of Manitoba proposed that agencies other than the FFMC be permitted to participate in the export market for freshwater fish. Is the federal government in agreement with this proposition which would have serious economic and social consequences for the communities serviced by the corporation?

Hon. James A. McGrath (Minister of Fisheries and

Oceans): Mr, Speaker, I had a very useful meeting this morning with the provincial ministers responsible for fisheries, from Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Ontario and a representative of the territorial government of the Northwest Terri-

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tories. We agreed that there is a continuing role for the FFMC to play and that there is a central marketing role for the corporation. However, there are details with respect to a consensus which have to be worked out. To this end, wc have set up a committee to tie together the loose ends coming from the meeting, and agreed that we will meet again in Winnipeg before April, at which time a policy decision will be announced.

Topic:   FISHERIES
Subtopic:   FUTURE OF FRESHWATER FISH MARKETING CORPORATION
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NDP

Terence James (Terry) Sargeant

New Democratic Party

Mr. Sargeant:

Mr. Speaker, on the intended structure to which the minister has referred, could he indicate whether the federal government unilaterally will initiate these changes, or will the participating provinces each change the structure in accordance with their own perceived needs or goals; or will these changes be initiated only with the consensus of all the participating provinces and territories?

Topic:   FISHERIES
Subtopic:   FUTURE OF FRESHWATER FISH MARKETING CORPORATION
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PC

James Aloysius McGrath (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McGrath:

Mr. Speaker, as I indicated to the hon. member, we are well on our way toward consensus. No decision has yet been taken. The decision will not be taken unilaterally. As I said before, we have agreed that it would be useful for us to meet again, and that meeting will take place in Winnipeg some time in April. At that time, a final decision will be announced.

Topic:   FISHERIES
Subtopic:   FUTURE OF FRESHWATER FISH MARKETING CORPORATION
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PRIVILEGE

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