A bad copy. I know that other members have brought up the question of fairness and the fact that this scheme is inequitable. I just want to go over it very briefly once more. This scheme will not create one job. It is probably inflationary. This scheme is a fine, a penalty against people who have paid for their homes and who will pay for the scheme. It is a penalty, a fine, against older people who have for some reason sold their homes because they were too large to keep. It is a penalty against widows in large centres many of whom, if not most, decided at some point to sell their houses because they were too much trouble to keep up and who then moved into apartments. These people are going to be penalized and fined by the government. This is a fine against anyone who happens to like living in an apartment. It is a fine against anyone who wants to live, as has become fashionable, in the downtown areas of our large and great Canadian cities.
The minister in his remarks on Monday of last week spoke about this being a measure to help urban people. He said that for the first time this was a measure not meant for suburban people or people in developments, it was meant for urban people.
I represent an urban constituency. The minister also pointed out that members of his party from urban communities supported this measure. There are not too many members of his party from the central parts of Canadian cities. We all know what happened to "de Cutback'' after his six months. We all
know what happened to the sixth-month member from Eglin-ton and the six-month member from Parkdale. Those are parts of urban centres whose residents do not think the scheme was so hot. In any of those ridings you will find thousands of homes paid for by the owners, and in many cases these owners have lived in them for many years. These people saw through the scheme. They knew they were going to get penalized. They knew this during the election campaign. They knew that they were the group that had been identified by these characters over here, and by "plasticman", the convoluted, slipping-through-the-keyhole character that we now have for our Prime Minister. They knew that this group has identified sectors in the community to be penalized, sectors where, if you put a little group together, you would squeeze through even though half a million less voted for them. They knew that and they know it still.
Subtopic: INCOME TAX ACT
Sub-subtopic: AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE TAX CREDIT IN RESPECT OF MORTGAGE INTEREST AND PROPERTY TAX