March 7, 1979

LIB

Jack Sydney George (Bud) Cullen (Minister of Employment and Immigration)

Liberal

Mr. Cullen:

Mr. Speaker, by its very nature the question is hypothetical and I am not very keen on answering it on that basis, but I will say that I think much will depend on where the increase is. For example, if we indicated that we would take 10,000 refugees per year out of the 100,000, and we are getting toward the end of the year and we get into a situation where we suddenly have to take in many more refugees, then in that particular instance obviously the number would go over 100,000. If it happens early in the year, we would probably stick with our 100,000 level to see what impact that would have. If we could not work it out, I would meet with my provincial colleagues again for discussions.

There is nothing hard and fast about the 100,000. We can increase that number if it is necessary, but the provinces and the federal government do have some opportunity for planning based on the figures we anticipate for the calendar year.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   IMMIGRATION
Sub-subtopic:   TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR REFUGEES
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NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS TO BE ADMITTED ANNUALLY

PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Marcel Lambert (Edmonton West):

Mr. Speaker, my question is to the same minister. If the annual quota or expected total remains the same, is it not a fact that if there is an increase in the refugee allotment, this is at the expense of

the ordinary flow of immigration; and what is the view of the government toward those people who have normal expectations of immigration, under this new quota system?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS TO BE ADMITTED ANNUALLY
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LIB

Jack Sydney George (Bud) Cullen (Minister of Employment and Immigration)

Liberal

Hon. Bud Cullen (Minister of Employment and Immigration):

Mr. Speaker, the purpose of consulting with the provinces was to make a determination of what might be, first, an appropriate global level for the number of immigrants and, then, the number of refugees we might anticipate. We did not see that number of refugees having a detrimental effect on what the hon. member has called the ordinary flow of immigrants. If we found it was having that effect, obviously I would meet with my colleagues and suggest we move that up to whatever number is necessary. However, I have to do that in consultation. Under the present legislation I can no longer do it unilaterally.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS TO BE ADMITTED ANNUALLY
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LOTO CANADA

PC

Paul Wyatt Dick

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Paul Dick (Lanark-Renfrew-Carleton):

Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct a question to the Minister of State (Fitness and Amateur Sport). Appendix C of the Loto Canada document which was tabled on February 21 indicated that all matters relating to the contract between Loto Canada and General Instrument would be finalized at eleven o'clock on Monday, March 5. That Monday has now passed, and I wonder if the minister can tell me whether money changed hands at that time and whether the contract initially entered into between Loto Canada and General Instrument has now gone by the boards and is a fail accompli.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOTO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   PROPOSED TABLING OF AGREEMENT WITH GENERAL INSTRUMENTS
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LIB

Iona Campagnolo (Minister of State (Fitness and Amateur Sport))

Liberal

Hon. Iona Campagnolo (Minister of State (Fitness and Amateur Sport)):

Mr. Speaker, God in Her wisdom, and Harold Ballard to the contrary, as a woman who is up on her feet in this House of Commons I would like to say that I consider Mr. Ballard's remarks to be a disgrace to all women in Canada, and the answer to the hon. member's question is yes.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOTO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   PROPOSED TABLING OF AGREEMENT WITH GENERAL INSTRUMENTS
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?

Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOTO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   PROPOSED TABLING OF AGREEMENT WITH GENERAL INSTRUMENTS
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PC

Paul Wyatt Dick

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Dick:

Mr. Speaker, the minister has an easy way of smuggling in a few other ideas.

On seven occasions in this House the minister indicated that she was not able to table the contract between Loto Canada and General Instrument, but that after the matter was settled the contract might be available to the House. As recorded at page 1797 of Hansard, the Prime Minister said to the Leader of the Opposition:

The Leader of the Opposition suggests that there is a waste of money. The minister has told us that when the contracts are completed, she will table them if they are requested.

The Prime Minister was referring to the Minister of State (Fitness and Amateur Sport), and I am now making such a

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request. I wonder if the minister will be able to table the contract between Loto Canada and General Instrument before the end of this week.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOTO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   PROPOSED TABLING OF AGREEMENT WITH GENERAL INSTRUMENTS
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LIB

Iona Campagnolo (Minister of State (Fitness and Amateur Sport))

Liberal

Mrs. Campagnolo:

Mr. Speaker, it was my earnest desire to table that contract. However, there is a confidentiality clause within it which remains in effect even after the cancellation of the contract. Therefore, I am unable to table it. 1 have asked the lawyers of the corporation to keep me informed as to whether there will be a time when that contract will no longer be confidential. If there is, I will bring it forward as the Prime Minister suggested.

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Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOTO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   PROPOSED TABLING OF AGREEMENT WITH GENERAL INSTRUMENTS
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LABOUR RELATIONS

INQUIRY WHETHER MINISTER WILL INTERVENE IN VOYAGEUR

LIB

Alexandre Cyr

Liberal

Mr. Alexandre Cyr (Gaspe):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Labour.

The population of Quebec has been deprived of its Voyageur bus service for several months. Does the minister intend to participate personally in the negotiations between Voyageur Colonial Ltd. and its bus drivers and can he tell the House whether he expects the conflict to be settled in the near future?

Topic:   LABOUR RELATIONS
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHETHER MINISTER WILL INTERVENE IN VOYAGEUR
Sub-subtopic:   DISPUTE
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LIB

Alan Gray Martin (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Hon. Martin O'Connell (Minister of Labour):

Mr. Speaker, the federal mediator pursues his effort to find a solution to that conflict through personal meetings with both parties.

I agree with the hon. member for Gaspe that the general public, the residents of 450 municipalities are affected by that conflict. I urge both parties to co-operate fully with the federal mediator, particularly when we consider the fact that the company has endorsed the principle of the hourly wage, 1 think, instead of the mileage compensation system, so the time has come to accelerate their negotiations. Personally, I do not intend to interfere at this time.

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Topic:   LABOUR RELATIONS
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHETHER MINISTER WILL INTERVENE IN VOYAGEUR
Sub-subtopic:   DISPUTE
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SHIPBUILDING

ASSISTANCE FOR GREAT LAKES SHIPBUILDING INDUSTRY

PC

Constantine George (Gus) Mitges

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gus Mitges (Grey-Simcoe):

Mr. Speaker, in the absence of the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce perhaps I can direct my question to his parliamentary secretary or to whomever is responsible for answering for that department.

In the new assistance program for the lagging shipbuilding industry in Canada, announced just recently by the government, it is very evident that much of this assistance is slated for the east and west coast areas and very little, if any, is

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earmarked for the Great Lakes shipbuilding industry. I would like to ask the government to take a long, hard look at this program in order to correct any injustices or hardships to the Great Lakes shipbuilding industry.

Topic:   SHIPBUILDING
Subtopic:   ASSISTANCE FOR GREAT LAKES SHIPBUILDING INDUSTRY
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LIB

Bernard Pierre Loiselle (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Bernard Loiselle (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker, in its accouncement the federal government provided for amounts to be allocated for ships or ferries to be built or repaired in Canadian shipyards and, therefore the Great Lakes shipbuilding industry will also be able to tender for those works.

Topic:   SHIPBUILDING
Subtopic:   ASSISTANCE FOR GREAT LAKES SHIPBUILDING INDUSTRY
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PC

Constantine George (Gus) Mitges

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mitges:

Mr. Speaker, I should like to ask the parliamentary secretary if he would take the necessary steps to assure the Great Lakes shipbuilding industry that all applications for assistances will be given the same consideration as those received from the east and west coast areas.

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Topic:   SHIPBUILDING
Subtopic:   ASSISTANCE FOR GREAT LAKES SHIPBUILDING INDUSTRY
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LIB

Bernard Pierre Loiselle (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Loiselle (Chambly):

Mr. Speaker, of course the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce as well as the minister will give as much consideration to the Great Lakes shipyards as to others across the country.

Topic:   SHIPBUILDING
Subtopic:   ASSISTANCE FOR GREAT LAKES SHIPBUILDING INDUSTRY
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March 7, 1979