March 7, 1979

SC

Eudore Allard

Social Credit

Mr. Eudore Allard (Rimouski):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Fisheries and the Environment. On November 22, 1978 the minister announced that for conservation purposes capelin would no longer be fished in the North Atlantic. At the same time he announced a new study and review of the question of stocks this month. Could the minister tell us whether he intends to announce his new policy concerning capelin fishing in 1979?

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Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR ANNOUNCEMENT OF NEW POLICY ON CAPELIN FISHING
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LIB

Roméo LeBlanc (Minister of the Environment)

Liberal

Hon. Romeo LeBlanc (Minister of Fisheries and the Environment):

I hope, Mr. Speaker, that following the meeting taking place today in Montreal we will be able to announce our overall policy; however, I can already indicate that scientists are in favour of setting low quotas and that offshore fishing will be first affected. Whenever possible, quotas will be attributed to inshore fishermen. In this regard, I must remind the hon. member that a good deal of the capelin fishing is done outside the 200-mile limit and that we therefore need the international co-operation on which we seem to be able to rely for the time being.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR ANNOUNCEMENT OF NEW POLICY ON CAPELIN FISHING
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INQUIRY WHETHER QUOTAS WILL BE INCREASED FOR CANADIAN FISHERMEN

SC

Eudore Allard

Social Credit

Mr. Eudore Allard (Rimouski):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a supplementary question to the minister. In view of the fact that the reduction in catches was attributable instead to excessive fishing by the Russian fleet, could the minister advise the House whether the quotas for Canadian fishermen will be increased, as this is a type of fishing which can be exploited on this side of the Atlantic and which could be of benefit to us in Canada?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHETHER QUOTAS WILL BE INCREASED FOR CANADIAN FISHERMEN
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LIB

Roméo LeBlanc (Minister of the Environment)

Liberal

Hon. Romeo LeBlanc (Minister of Fisheries and the Environment):

Mr. Speaker, I am not sure I can accept the hon. member's premise that the damage to our fish stocks is due to only one country. Undoubtedly there exist other factors about which we are not yet sufficiently informed, including the events which have affected capelin stocks and which have not

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yet been accounted for. Because of this situation we have taken precautionary measures by reducing quotas as much as possible for the current year. But I repeat that stocks will be reserved first for coastal fishermen.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHETHER QUOTAS WILL BE INCREASED FOR CANADIAN FISHERMEN
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FREEDOM OF INFORMATION

PC

Gerald William Baldwin

Progressive Conservative

Mr. G. W. Baldwin (Peace River):

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Prime Minister. I ask it of him as he is the clear authority on dates in this House. I tried to get the information from other ministers, without success.

Is the Prime Minister prepared to tell the House that he will see that there is brought into this House before the final days of this parliament a bill dealing with freedom of information? Is he prepared to agree that it should go to committee of the whole, with a free vote, in the hope that what might be a defective bill will be improved and the somewhat tarnished legislative record can be brightened by a good bill being passed in this regard?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
Sub-subtopic:   INTRODUCTION AND DISPOSITION OF LEGISLATION
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LIB

Pierre Elliott Trudeau (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. P. E. Trudeau (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, 1 am informed by the Deputy Prime Minister that the status of this bill is such that we could bring into the House fairly soon. I hope the hon. member will be patient for a little while longer.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
Sub-subtopic:   INTRODUCTION AND DISPOSITION OF LEGISLATION
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Gerald William Baldwin

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Baldwin:

Mr. Speaker, having been patient for several years, I can be patient for a couple more weeks. Can the Prime Minister assure us that the bill will be brought in before parliament ends, and that it is not his wish to avoid its being introduced because of the various political skeletons in the closet of the PMO?

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Subtopic:   FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
Sub-subtopic:   INTRODUCTION AND DISPOSITION OF LEGISLATION
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?

Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
Sub-subtopic:   INTRODUCTION AND DISPOSITION OF LEGISLATION
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LIB

James Alexander Jerome (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

The hon. member for Edmonton-Strathcona.

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Subtopic:   FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
Sub-subtopic:   INTRODUCTION AND DISPOSITION OF LEGISLATION
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EXTERNAL AFFAIRS

PC

Douglas Roche

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Douglas Roche (Edmonton-Strathcona):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Secretary of State for External Affairs. It follows on the motion successfully introduced a few moments ago by the right hon. member for Prince Albert.

May I ask the minister what assistance Canada has offered in enabling Egypt and Israel to take advantage of President Carter's presence in the Middle East this weekend and finally come to a political accommodation that can put into place a strategically important cornerstone in constructing a new framework for permanent peace in the Middle East?

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Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   ROLE OF CANADA IN SECURING PEACE IN MIDDLE EAST
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Donald Campbell Jamieson (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. Donald C. Jamieson (Secretary of State for External Affairs):

Mr. Speaker, I was, of course, more than happy to

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see the right hon. member's motion, as were all members of the House.

The Prime Minister was given, as I believe he indicated to the House, a briefing on the Middle East situation in Washington on Saturday. In addition, it has been known for some time that we have indicated to all of the parties concerned, including the United States, that if there is, for example, a United Nation's component in any force that may be established as part of the peacekeeping mechanism, we will consider most sympathetically participation in that kind of exercise.

If, in addition to that, the various parties, including Israel and Egypt, were to see some other advantages or role for Canada, in that case also we would respond in as forthcoming a way as possible to any request.

Mir. Roche: In addition to any possible extension of our peacekeeping role, specifically, has the government engaged in consultations that could lead to stronger Canadian economic relationships with Israel and Egypt that would reflect our conviction that a great era of economic and social development lies ahead in the whole Middle East once the pillar of peace is put in place?

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Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   ROLE OF CANADA IN SECURING PEACE IN MIDDLE EAST
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Donald Campbell Jamieson (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Jamieson:

The answer is yes, Mr. Speaker. To the extent you will permit me, I can designate two or three examples. In the case of Egypt, we already have a co-operation arrangement in place under which we have provided within the last few months considerable assistance with regard to electrification in that country. There is also a locomotives order, if my memory serves me right, in the order of several million dollars on which we have also provided financial assistance. Several other projects are either being discussed or advanced with that country.

We do, of course, have the closest working relationship with Israel. During the visit of Prime Minister Begin last autumn, we talked about improving the trade balances between our two countries and the level of trade, and specific discussions have been held on those subjects as well. I would have to check the records to see what precise items were involved, but certainly we are committed to the strongest kind of trade relationship with that country.

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Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   ROLE OF CANADA IN SECURING PEACE IN MIDDLE EAST
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REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION

PC

Robert Elgin McKinley

Progressive Conservative

Mr. R. E. McKinley (Huron-Middlesex):

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Regional Economic Expansion, who is in charge of the ARDA program. Last year I sought assurances from the minister that a new agreement would be signed with Ontario-a five-year agreement rather than simply an extension. At that time I was told that the negotiations were progressing favourably.

I further sought assurances that Ontario would receive the same treatment as all other provinces in this regard. I now find that the minister is endeavouring to make Ontario sign an agreement which would not provide any funding for southern Ontario or western Ontario, by which I mean west of Belleville. The federal government does not wish to provide any funding for that part of the province. I wonder why the minister has reneged on his former commitment.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Sub-subtopic:   ARDA AGREEMENT WITH ONTARIO
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Marcel Lessard (Minister of Regional Economic Expansion)

Liberal

Hon. Marcel Lessard (Minister of Regional Economic Expansion):

Mr. Speaker, on several occasions we extended the ARDA program with the province of Ontario even if we had indicated our intention to terminate that program, but we did so for very good reasons. And when last fall, following the budgetary cuts, we decided to terminate the ARDA program since it was operating only in Ontario, we indicated that we would be prepared to consider some projects within an agreement to be negotiated, which would apply to the eastern part of Ontario. Being satisfied that the agricultural situation has improved considerably in the western part of Ontario, to which the hon. member is referring, we want now to concentrate our effort and allocate the necessary capital to improve the agricultural picture in the eastern part of the province.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Sub-subtopic:   ARDA AGREEMENT WITH ONTARIO
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Robert Elgin McKinley

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McKinley:

It seems to me that the other provinces are not treated in this way. For instance, all of Quebec is covered by the ARDA agreement. I wonder what the problem is. Is it because there are no ministers from western Ontario who have any clout?

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Subtopic:   REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Sub-subtopic:   ARDA AGREEMENT WITH ONTARIO
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LIB

James Alexander Jerome (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. The hon. member for Windsor West.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Sub-subtopic:   ARDA AGREEMENT WITH ONTARIO
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March 7, 1979