March 7, 1979

SC

Eudore Allard

Social Credit

Mr. Allard:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not know whether it is in order, but I would like to draw the attention of the parliamentary secretary to question No. 356 which has been on the order paper since October 24, 1978. Since I did not receive any answer yet, I would ask the parliamentary secretary what is his position on that matter.

Topic:   MR. ALLARD-DELAY IN ANSWERING ORDER PAPER QUESTION
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LIB

Yvon Pinard (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. Yvon Pinard (Parliamentary Secretary to Deputy Prime Minister and President of Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, I had a look at the question. It does concern several departments and agencies and it has been referred to whom it may concern. We are expecting the results of the steps we took in order to be able to give the hon. member the most complete answer possible without undue delay.

March 7, 1979

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QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


LIB

Yvon Pinard (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. Yvon Pinard (Parliamentary Secretary to Deputy Prime Minister and President of Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, the following questions will be answered today: 77, 180, 525 and 939.

I ask, Mr. Speaker, that the remaining questions be allowed to stand.

Topic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
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SUPPLY AND SERVICES-DECENTRALIZATION TO MONCTON, N.B.

IND

Mr. Jones

Independent

1. Was the move to decentralize the Superannuation Branch of the Department of Supply and Services originally planned for Moncton, New Brunswick? Upon whose recommendation was Moncton chosen and on what basis?

2. What costs were entailed in planning and preparing for the move of the said Superannuation Branch to Moncton, New Brunswick?

3. Why was the change made to go to Shediac, New Brunswick? What additional costs were necessitated by such a change? Whose recommendation was followed to change the destination from Moncton to Shediac? And on what basis?

Topic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
Subtopic:   SUPPLY AND SERVICES-DECENTRALIZATION TO MONCTON, N.B.
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LIB

Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien (Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Hon. Jean Chretien (Minister of Finance):

1. The decision to relocate the superannuation branch of the Department of Supply and Services to the Moncton area in New Brunswick, not the city of Moncton-was approved by the Treasury Board early in 1976 and announced on June 14, 1976. The Moncton area was recommended by the Department of Supply and Services and the Treasury Board task force on decentralization.

2. Not applicable. See following answer (number 3).

3. The relocation of the superannuation branch to the Moncton area community of Shediac is consistent with the original decision by the Treasury Board. There are therefore no additional cost associated with planning and preparing for the move.

Topic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
Subtopic:   SUPPLY AND SERVICES-DECENTRALIZATION TO MONCTON, N.B.
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LYTTON INDIAN BAND-HOUSING PROJECT

PC

Mr. Patterson

Progressive Conservative

1. Did the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development receive a bid for work on a housing project for the Lytton Indian Band from Carter Building Systems in 1977?

2. Did the Department receive a bid for work on a housing project for the Lytton Indian Band from the Matsqui Correctional Institution in 1977 and, if so (a) what hourly wage rate was used by the Matsqui Institution in determining their costs (b) what is the Department's policy regarding federal minimum wage rates on departmental projects?

Topic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
Subtopic:   LYTTON INDIAN BAND-HOUSING PROJECT
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LIB

Yvon Pinard (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. Yvon Pinard (Parliamentary Secretary to Deputy Prime Minister and President of Privy Council):

I am informed by the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development and the Ministry of the Solicitor General as follows:

Order Paper Questions

1. No. However, the Lytton Band has responsibility for administering its own housing programs on its own reserves. We understand that a bid was received from Carter Building Systems but was not accepted by the band.

2. No, but it is the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development understanding that the Matsqui Correctional Institute submitted a bid to the Lytton Band.

(a) One dollar per hour.

(b) Normally, the policy of the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development regarding wage rates on departmental projects is to pay either the provincial or the federal minimum wage rate, whichever is higher.

Note: Chapter VIII of the sub-committee's report on the penitentiary system in Canada, 1977 particularly refers to work education and training. Recommendations 39, 40, 41, 42 and 43 underline the necessity for further development of industries within the Canadian penitentiary service and, with the Solicitor General's agreement in principle, these recommendations are now in the process of being implemented.

However, the Canadian penitentiary service has been operating an industrial program for many years. The construction of modular housing is only one aspect of the program. The objective of this program is to ensure that inmates would be fully, regularly and suitably employed at tasks that would train them to operate and hold employment upon their return to society. It would also assist in defraying the cost to the public of operating the Canadian penitentiary service.

Prior to the construction of modular units for Indian bands, inmates under the program would build structures as a phase of training. At the end of the training period, the training structures would be demolished. To eliminate this waste of materials and the frustration of inmates in knowing that what they had built would serve no useful purpose, the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development and the Canada penitentiary service developed the modular housing program. The training program leads to inmates learning a trade thus enhancing their potential for resocialization and their chances of being absorbed into the labour market on release. Many of the inmates undertaking the training are Indians and, on release, return to the reserves to assist in the band's housing construction program.

Topic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
Subtopic:   LYTTON INDIAN BAND-HOUSING PROJECT
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SHIPS ON CHARTER TO CN MARINE

PC

Mr. Muir

Progressive Conservative

1. What are the names of the ships on charter to CN Marine?

2. For what service are they chartered and at what cost?

Topic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
Subtopic:   SHIPS ON CHARTER TO CN MARINE
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LIB

Otto Emil Lang (Minister of Transport; Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board)

Liberal

Hon. Otto E. Lang (Minister of Transport):

The management of Canadian National Railways advises as follows:

1. Marine Nautica Marine Voyager

Marine Atlantica M. V. Kloster

Marine Cruiser M. V. Clyde

Marine Evangeline M. V. Sarah

Princess of Acadia Marine Coaster

Marine Sprinter M. V. Glencoe

March 7, 1979

Order Paper Questions

Marine Runner M. V. Mount Blair

Marine Packer Marine Transport

Topsail Star Marine Trader

Dunure

2. The ships are chartered for mainland Newfoundland, Bay of Fundy, and Newfoundland-Labrador service. It is not the practice of the company to disclose financial details of commercial transactions between itself and persons or firms providing services.

Topic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
Subtopic:   SHIPS ON CHARTER TO CN MARINE
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DEFENCE INDUSTRY PRODUCTIVITY PROGRAM

PC

Mr. Crosbie

Progressive Conservative

1. For the fiscal year (a) 1974-75 (b) 1975-76 (c) 1976-77 (d) 1977-78, under the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce Defence Industry Productivity Programme (DIP) or any successor programme under the Enterprise Development Programme (EDP), what was the number and total value of contracts (i) between $0 and $50,000 (ii) between $50,001 and $100,000 (iii) between $100,001 and 500,000 (iv) between $500,001 and 1,000,000 (v) $1,000,001 or more (vi) in total?

2. For the same years, what were the expenditures of the Department under the Defence Industry Productivity Programme (DIP) or any successor programme under the Enterprise Development Programme (EDP) in (a) the Textile and Consumer Products Branch (b) the Agriculture, Fisheries & Food Products Branch (c) the Chemicals Branch (d) the Electrical and Electronics Branch (e) the Machinery Branch (0 the Resource Industries Branch (g) the Construction and Consulting Services Branch (h) all branches?

3. For the same years, by province and territory, what was the total in grants and contributions by the Department under the Defence Industry Productivity Programme (DIP) or any successor programme under the Enterprise Development Programme (EDP)?

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Subtopic:   DEFENCE INDUSTRY PRODUCTIVITY PROGRAM
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Hon. Jack. H. Horner@Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce

In so far as the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce is concerned:

1. See list No. 1 below.

2. See list No. 2 below.

3. See list No. 3 below.

The Defence Industry Productivity Program has remained separate from the Enterprise Development Program.

Department of Industry Trade and Commerce Defence Industry Productivity Program (DIP)

Number and Total Value of Contracts

$0 to $50,000 $50,001 to $100,001 to $500,001 to $1,000,001 and over Total$100,000 $500,000 $1,000,000 No. Value No. Value No. Value No. Value No. Value No. Value1974/75 15 $507,983 11 $873,515 37 $10,479,098 2 $1,170,030 11 $39,469,513 76 $52,500,1391975/76 6 $224,150 4 $280,210 19 $5,080,462 6 $4,506,519 5 $8,771,718 40 $18,863,0591976/77 13 $390,156 11 $785,007 41 $11,310,286 7 $4,483,451 12 $39,684,901 84 $56,653,8011977/78 8 $197,586 15 $1,153,252 38 $9,104,099 8 $5,474,760 12 $48,802,784 81 $64,732,481Total 42 $1,319,875 41 $3,091,984 135 $35,973,945 23 $15,634,760 40 $136,728,916 281 $192,749,480Department of Industry Trade and Commerce Defence Industry Productivity Program (DIP) Expenditures N.B. Contributions $96,316 Grants $705,200 $801,516 $186,591 $11,489 $198,080 $6,698 $102,364 $109,062 1974/75 1975/76 1976/77 1977/78 p.E.I. - - - -Textile and Consumer Ont. Products Branch - - - - Contributions $26,469,886 $17,215,217 $23,492,564 $17,079,003Agriculture, Fisheries Grants $2,592,294 $3,156,821 $3,180,673 $3,089,392and Food Products $29,062,180 $20,372,038 $26,673,237 $20,168,395Branch - - - - Que. Chemicals Branch $299,156 $403,199 $103,687 $5,036,840 Contributions $14,231,739 $14,836,634 $15,201,725 $21,719,802Electrical and Grants $2,698,992 $2,511,402 $2,006,271 $703,137Electrics Branch $7,669,717 $6,158,180 $8,509,476 $11,270,445 $16,930,731 $17,348,036 $17,207,996 $22,422,939Machinery Branch $507,306 $474,328 $787,331 $651,791 Man. Resource Industries Contributions $34,081 $403,787 - -and Construction Grants $31,036 - - -Branch $195,281 $294,888 $584,282 $207,964 $65,117 $403,787 - -Transportation Sask. Industries Branch $39,758,559 $31,669,405 $34,915,224 $26,042,598 Contributions - - - -Grants Total $48,430,019 $39,000,000 $44,900,000 $43,209,638 Alberta Department of Industry Trade and Commerce Contributions $89,376 non $16,686 - -Defence Industry Productivity Program (DIP) Grants $27,989 $117,365 $4,777 $21,463 - -1974/75 1975/76 1976/77 1977/78 B.C. Nfld. Contributions - - - 38,746Contributions Grants $219,345 $253,995 $145,570 $512,645Grants $219,345 $253,995 $145,570 $551,391N.S. National Contributions $643,142 $402,601 $690,395 $66,913 Contributions $41,564,540 $33,061,516 $39,391,382 $38,904,464Grants $590,623 $73,740 Grants $6,865,479 $5,938,484 $5,508,618 $4,305,174$1,233,765 $402,601 $764,135 $66,913 Total $48,430,019 $39,000,000 $44,900,000 $43,209,638

March 7, 1979

Topic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
Subtopic:   DEFENCE INDUSTRY PRODUCTIVITY PROGRAM
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LIB

James Alexander Jerome (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

The questions enumerated by the hon. parliamentary secretary have been answered. Shall the remaining questions be allowed to stand?

Topic:   QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER
Subtopic:   DEFENCE INDUSTRY PRODUCTIVITY PROGRAM
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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Subtopic:   DEFENCE INDUSTRY PRODUCTIVITY PROGRAM
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March 7, 1979